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Buster11 18th Oct 2020 20:39

What the Pilot Wanted Cartoons
 
Does anyone have a copy of a sequence of cartoons called What the Pilot Wanted that he could copy to me please? It started with a swing hung from a tree branch, followed by several drawings showing how this was interpreted by various departments, including 'elfin safety's version, with the branch cut off and the swing on the ground. Mine is presumably buried somewhere in the Misc. Docs. department of Buster11 Towers.

Lantern10 18th Oct 2020 20:44

Google swing designed by committee

MarcK 18th Oct 2020 20:48

There are a lot of variants of this one:
https://stevensonfinancialmarketing....ew_product.png

622 19th Oct 2020 13:43

Im stealling that for work! :)

Buster11 19th Oct 2020 13:54

Many thanks, MarcK. Shows how long ago mine was, as it was B&W. I'll see if anyone can come up with others; the one I had was military, with one of the interpretations being MoD (PE)'s version.

Hot 'n' High 19th Oct 2020 15:53

There is a software design version which I like.

Richards guide to software developmentHOW THE SOFTWAREis designed.80%HOW MUCH TIME HAS TO 4 8 SPENT / software development :: comics (funny comics & strips, cartoons) / funny pictures & best jokes: comics, images, video, humor, gif animation - i lol&


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....764dcbc8d4.png



The bit for me in this, when I did a PM role for a major IT "development", was the "What the Customer Really Wanted" box. It was spot on!!!!

My IT suppliers (the DCSA) were doing their nut and didn't believe me when I kept on saying that the customer had no idea at all what they wanted so I could not give them any Specs. I explained that we'd just need to roll out more of what they already had to the new people despite the fact it was meant to "transform how they worked" and that they'd just have to put in RFCs to modify it once they figured out how they wanted to "transform" once they were up and running.

Eventually, after a major meeting with the customers and suppliers in the same room, the DCSA realised that H 'n' H was not deranged (well, at least not completely deranged) and that my suggestion was the only solution. Never did find out whether any RFCs got raised as, directly after "Go Live" I left the Post! Not, it was planned that way ... and not by me .... before anyone accuses me of being "a rat abandoning a sinking ship"!!!! :ok:

Eek, eek!!!!! H 'n' H

PS Buster11, I recall the one you do but, sadly, don't have a copy.

cliver029 19th Oct 2020 16:24

first seen by me at Control Data in 1976:zzz:

Hot 'n' High 19th Oct 2020 16:35


Originally Posted by cliver029 (Post 10907542)
first seen by me at Control Data in 1976:zzz:

Bet in 2076 they'll still be using it too! :ok: I may pop back then to check on my prediction - and my step-kids should still be alive so I can do a bit of "haunting" at the same time!!! The little bu@@ers deserve it!!! :E

Imagegear 19th Oct 2020 16:55

Found on t' internet - not able to credit...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/82/61...77a0694eb3.jpg

Jhieminga 20th Oct 2020 12:53

That last one is reminiscent of a Bob Stevens cartoon, but I cannot be sure.

sycamore 20th Oct 2020 17:06

H`n H`.....strongly advise you Not ,REPEAT NOT to look at `NSFW(6488) on that website....!!

racedo 20th Oct 2020 19:55


Originally Posted by Hot 'n' High (Post 10907515)
There is a software design version which I like.


and that my suggestion was the only solution. Never did find out whether any RFCs got raised as, directly after "Go Live" I left the Post! Not, it was planned that way ... and not by me .... before anyone accuses me of being "a rat abandoning a sinking ship"!!!! :ok:
.

Every piece of major software I have seen implemented for a large entity did not work with one exception. Sacking of the development team and implementors shortly after go live was the standard. The one that worked pretty much held promotions off for 18 months during project, every one on project had a role to go into, were rewarded for their work and 12 months post implementation they went back to understand what worked, what didn't, what retraining was needed and retrain again.

Unsurprisingly their investment worked. Their requirement to be on the project in the first place was a minimum of on target (or plus) for 2 yrs running, this to be even considered rather than the let us get rid of this idiot out of the dept onto a project of others.

tdracer 20th Oct 2020 22:23

Imagegear - there was a variation on that cartoon on one of the first pages of my college textbook on aircraft design (the class was taught by the guy who literally wrote the book).

The part of that always stuck in my mind was the weights group - the aircraft skin was "unobtainium, one mil thick" :E (the mention of 'unobtainium' when watching Avatar always brings that back :p).

This one has always been one of my favorites (a copy graced my desk at work for many years):

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ee4921d429.jpg
It also comes frighteningly close to some of the Laplace Transformations I had to show back in my college controls class...:eek:

Hot 'n' High 21st Oct 2020 11:06


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 10908296)
H`n H`.....strongly advise you Not ,REPEAT NOT to look at `NSFW(6488) on that website....!!

Err, not had a chance to check sycamore. Why, is it showing something a Pilot may want????? Praps I'll look later!!!!!!!!! Got to reply to tdracer first.....


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 10908469)
This one has always been one of my favorites (a copy graced my desk at work for many years):

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ee4921d429.jpg
It also comes frighteningly close to some of the Laplace Transformations I had to show back in my college controls class...:eek:

tdracer, for me to get a Laplace Transform correct did take a "miracle". To this day I have no idea how I ever passed that part of my Degree Course!!!!! :}

Maybe I applied the same technique as I did to my one and only rock-climbing effort in 1981 under the watchful eye of a "kindly" RM Instructor - having explained to him that I didn't really "do" heights (tho flying S&L, Inverted, Unusual Attitudes is no problem!!!!! Bring that on!!!!!). It took me 10 minutes to climb 6 ft up a 30 ft cliff - along with a continuous torrent of abuse from the Bootneck up above at the top. The last thing I recall doing was shouting up, "Where can I put my hand next???" which only elicited a further torrent of abuse! :\

The next thing I recall is being at the top ..... with a VERY startled Bootneck Instructor looking at me thus..... :eek:!

"H 'n' H, how the fu£& did you manage that? I couldn't even pull the e££ing safety rope in fast enough! If you'd fallen you'd have been a gonner!! Don't you ever do that sort of thing again!!!". "Staff, I have no e££ing idea how I got here, the last I recall was I was wayyyy down there!". We both looked at each other in silence and then, in a very calm voice but with a dying echo of panic still there, the Bootneck said, "H 'n' H, if it's OK with you Sunshine, I think we should skip the rest of rock-climbing for you, don't you?". At that point the Bootneck and I were on exactly the same wavelength!!!! :ok: And, nope, I do not remember the intervening 24 ft (or however many it was)!!!!

meleagertoo 21st Oct 2020 11:48

The original cartoon referred to was inded black and white and I first saw it in 1983
There were only six iterations, the first, "What the Pilot Wanted" was a swing hanging from a tree branch and ended up with "What MOD PE Installed" - some kind of lash-up that I forget.

Hot 'n' High 21st Oct 2020 12:05


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 10908913)
T.. some kind of lash-up that I forget.

meleagertoo,are you referring to (a) the device, (b) MoD(PE) or (c) both??????? ;)

Jhieminga 21st Oct 2020 14:33

Probably this one with some changes in the captions. It has been around for many years (article about it here: https://www.businessballs.com/amusem...arly-versions/).
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4bd1e3cf20.jpg

Saintsman 21st Oct 2020 15:19

I've been involved in numerous projects where the customer didn't know what they really wanted. They had an idea that they needed something and it was left to us to define it.

Of course we knew what was required, but once we had defined it, it was too expensive. So it was chopped and changed and later changed again when the customer thought about it.

So in the end they got what they didn't really want, for more than they wanted to spend and of course late.

I'm sure this'll sound familiar to quite a few...

Hot 'n' High 21st Oct 2020 15:31

Just for Saintsman!!! :ok:


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....16e5e321f9.gif

Imagegear 21st Oct 2020 18:54

That's all you need to see after the client says:.... "and we will require a fixed price proposal with penalties for non-conformance, by the way we have already written the specification so we won't be needing any consultancy.".

It is important not to laugh loudly at this stage, because it might be taken the wrong way and get you shoed out the door, but sometimes one just cannot help it.

Later you might be awarded promotion or a salary increase, but more often than not - you get shown the door. :}


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