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chopper2004 29th Sep 2020 18:03

Draken acquires Cobham Aviation Services
 
On 25 September 2020, Cobham sold its entire Aviation Services UK business to Draken Intl, the largest provider of aggressor and adversary training in the US and now, also quite possibly, the UK.


https://www.investegate.co.uk/cobham...281634213423A/


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Green Flash 29th Sep 2020 18:18

Well, Cobhams Teeside squadron have been very busy east of Newcastle these past few days, presumably working with the carrier group.

KING6024 29th Sep 2020 18:57

There were two busy over the North Sea yesterday and there also a group of Hawks also busy at the same time.

Colin

Foghorn Leghorn 30th Sep 2020 07:39

Looks like some exciting times ahead for Cobham. Draken could bring some of their fast jets across to service European/NATO requirements.

NIREP reader 30th Sep 2020 08:41

I wonder how this will affect the Rotary side of things with the Bell 212 at Middle Wallop, Brunei and the 412 on loan at Boscombe Down?.

Martin the Martian 30th Sep 2020 09:29

And the Cobham Helicopter Academy at Newquay, which is quite a busy operations if the flight tracking sites are anything to go by.

The Falcons are around the south west coast nearly every day as well.

Foghorn Leghorn 30th Sep 2020 09:45


Originally Posted by Martin the Martian (Post 10895360)
And the Cobham Helicopter Academy at Newquay, which is quite a busy operations if the flight tracking sites are anything to go by.

The Falcons are around the south west coast nearly every day as well.

I can only imagine it’s good news.

Foghorn Leghorn 3rd Oct 2020 07:41

I wonder if we are going to see a respray for the Cobham jets.

Also the potential might now be here to bring an agile platform into service as Red Air similar to what they’re doing in America.

typerated 3rd Oct 2020 08:37


Originally Posted by Foghorn Leghorn (Post 10897339)
I wonder if we are going to see a respray for the Cobham jets.

Also the potential might now be here to bring an agile platform into service as Red Air similar to what they’re doing in America.

There seems to be something wrong with this picture - reduce the F-35 buy (and lots of other frontline platforms such as tanks) and, If you are right (indirectly) buy none operational jets.

BEagle 3rd Oct 2020 11:33

Hmmm - pilot licensing could be interesting....

DuckDodgers 3rd Oct 2020 18:12

I would have thought that an agile platform would be on the UK MAR and operated under the MAA's CFAOS, so no difference to the way in which HHA operate their Hunters. I can only assume that an application for this along with Mil CAMO, DAOS and MAOS Part 145 are in the works.

GeeRam 3rd Oct 2020 19:12


Originally Posted by DuckDodgers (Post 10897728)
I would have thought that an agile platform would be on the UK MAR and operated under the MAA's CFAOS, so no difference to the way in which HHA operate their Hunters. I can only assume that an application for this along with Mil CAMO, DAOS and MAOS Part 145 are in the works.

And I could imagine there could thus be some nervous twitching happening in a hangar at Scampton as a result of this....


Foghorn Leghorn 3rd Oct 2020 19:46


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 10897508)
Hmmm - pilot licensing could be interesting....

Why would there be an issue with licensing? There are plenty of ex-mil jets being flown by civvies.

Draken getting a foothold in the UK could be a great way to get agile red air platforms into Europe to provide representative training for all air forces.

DuckDodgers 4th Oct 2020 08:15


Originally Posted by GeeRam (Post 10897746)
And I could imagine there could thus be some nervous twitching happening in a hangar at Scampton as a result of this....

Between that and having to find a new home when Scampton closes. It will be very interesting to see where this now goes.

SWBKCB 4th Oct 2020 08:26

Doesn't their need to be requirements identified, contracts tendered, that sort of thing?

DuckDodgers 4th Oct 2020 10:32

Aren't the artist formerly known as CAvS (UK) in receipt of a new contract that started this year?

SWBKCB 4th Oct 2020 11:05

Isn't that an extension of the existing one, so to continue to do the same things e.g. with the Falcon's. Wouldn't bring in Draken to act as Red Air, as has been suggested, move things to a different level?

DuckDodgers 4th Oct 2020 11:45

My understanding is that it is an entirely new single source QDC. Whether it ties them to a specific platform vice training effects who actually knows?

Green Flash 4th Oct 2020 14:07

Could HHA cabs become part of the Draken operation I wonder? Does the Hunter have a similar performance to an A4 for instance? Dammit, there's some kit over at Brunty that might be looking for a new home if they are really feeling flush! I know, I know .... :sad:

Foghorn Leghorn 4th Oct 2020 20:34


Originally Posted by DuckDodgers (Post 10898015)
Aren't the artist formerly known as CAvS (UK) in receipt of a new contract that started this year?

Yes. The contract is called MSASS and is entirely separate to the previous O2O contract. It’s my understanding that new fighters couldn’t be used as part of this new contract?


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