B52 in 'emergency alert' over Gloucestershire
Gloucestershire Live reporting this
https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...-alert-4551362 The report says "The US Air Force B-52 bomber transmitted a ‘squawk code 770" sic. Flightradar (below) says 7700. The report also talks about Minot air force base stating that there had been a 'general in flight emergency'. Flightradar earlier showed the orbits over Cheltenham, Gloucester and Tewkesbury taking place at 10,000ft. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e4dd8386bd.png Flightradar24 coverage just after BAL0052 landed at Fairford airsound |
Just happened to be watching this live on ADS-B yesterday, as a mate had sent a photo through of the 4 of them passing over him in Wellingborough....
It was the last of the 4 to land that squawked 7700....one of the pair to spend an hour or so orbiting Gloucester, the previous 3 to land had all also done a run and break to land as well at Fairford, but the last one landed straight in, but it didn't start squawking 7700 until after it ended the orbits of Gloucester and had started its decent. |
Trying to work out where the story is here - or is it just me?
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Originally Posted by Chris Kebab
(Post 10893011)
Trying to work out where the story is here - or is it just me?
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They were circling for more than an hour I'm sure, kept coming over our office, a pair together then one broke off and went low over our house as I got home just after 5.30pm.
Didn't I read they weren't squawking the emergency code and in fact the 'papers' got it wrong? GL is a cesspit of a local rag so wouldn't surprise me! They have done these circuits in pairs before too a few weeks back. I just assumed they had too much fuel to land and therefore were burning it off? |
The version on Fighter Control is that four of the six B-52 currently on deployment at Fairford went out on a mission over Poland yesterday. Two were due to return to Fairford, and the other two were scheduled to return to Minot direct from Poland. However their refueling tankers were out of crosswind limits (Mildenhall presumably) and couldn't launch, hence a late decision to return all four to Fairford. However the Minot-bound pair were overweight for landing and hence orbited Gloucester for an hour and a half burning off fuel. During this, one of the pair picked up a crew entry hatch warning light and declared an IFE and corresponding squawk of 7700. It landed safely and was met by the airfield rescue services.
Five of the six have departed today back to Minot, with yesterday's IFE aircraft the one left at Fairford for now. |
salad-dodger, Kris Kebab
Actually, I think there is a story. How often do you find one, and sometimes two, B52s in a roughly 13nm orbit, at 10,000ft-ish over rural Gloucestershire - for about 1 hour and 20 minutes? Don't you think it would be interesting to hear what they were doing - particularly perhaps for the people they were overflying? As far as the 7700 squawk goes, BirdmanBerry, you're correct - they were only squawking that for not long before landing, according to flightradar24. airsound |
Crossed with roger4 - thank you very much for that. Sounds very plausible.
airsound |
Originally Posted by airsound
(Post 10893088)
salad-dodger, Kris Kebab
Don't you think it would be interesting to hear what they were doing - particularly perhaps for the people they were overflying? airsound (extra letters to submit) |
Orbiting their Fail-Safe points......😉
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Originally Posted by airsound
(Post 10893088)
salad-dodger, Kris Kebab
Actually, I think there is a story. How often do you find one, and sometimes two, B52s in a roughly 13nm orbit, at 10,000ft-ish over rural Gloucestershire - for about 1 hour and 20 minutes? Don't you think it would be interesting to hear what they were doing - particularly perhaps for the people they were overflying? As far as the 7700 squawk goes, BirdmanBerry, you're correct - they were only squawking that for not long before landing, according to flightradar24. airsound |
Perhaps they had engine trouble and had to land just using the remain seven . . .
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Originally Posted by Yarpy
(Post 10893171)
Perhaps they had engine trouble and had to land just using the remain seven . . .
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Originally Posted by spitfirek5054
(Post 10893191)
Not the dreaded 7 engine approach,having to to do an asymmetric approach and landing.
7 engine approach used to be scary, then they remembered they can move the gear in line with the assymetry... |
There wasn't that much drama TBH. When it became apparent they'd have to return to Fairford the original plan was burn fuel by orbiting over the North Sea, then the Brize area, then finally over Gloucester. The frame which had the hatch problem was I believe the same one which had a pressurization issue earlier in the day. The crew did discuss with bomber ops about whether to declare an emergency but presumably decided between them to wait until they were within weight limits before doing so.
I believe the local press got wind of the fact two Buffs were orbiting for nigh on two hours over Gloucs, found out about the hatch issue and put 2 and 2 together to get 11. The Daily Fail then got hold of the story... What was more interesting was the comms between the two crews as they mused whether they should land, refuel and change cabs in order to get back stateside, as was their original plan. They clearly weren't that enamoured about having to return to Fairford. |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 10893325)
..... They clearly weren't that enamoured about having to return to Fairford.
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Why not Minot?
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Originally Posted by salad-dodger
(Post 10893095)
no
(extra letters to submit) Hint. Need less than 10 characters? Type a series of whatever you want (dots for example) for the extra characters and colour them white. I'm not sure if they appear when being quoted though, so keep it clean. |
Originally Posted by Barksdale Boy
(Post 10893381)
Why not Minot?
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Originally Posted by roger4
(Post 10893085)
<snip>
During this, one of the pair picked up a crew entry hatch warning light and declared an IFE and corresponding squawk of 7700. It landed safely and was met by the airfield rescue services. </snip> Time will tell. Though these days efficiently dealing with problems like this is much easier than previously. The classic car world has been revolutionised by 3D laser scanners, 3D printing, CNC machining, etc, which has made parts reproduction very easy. Any reports for someone finding a B52 crew entry hatch in their back garden? (Apologies for the thread drift) |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 10893325)
There wasn't that much drama TBH. When it became apparent they'd have to return to Fairford the original plan was burn fuel by orbiting over the North Sea, then the Brize area, then finally over Gloucester. The frame which had the hatch problem was I believe the same one which had a pressurization issue earlier in the day. The crew did discuss with bomber ops about whether to declare an emergency but presumably decided between them to wait until they were within weight limits before doing so.
I believe the local press got wind of the fact two Buffs were orbiting for nigh on two hours over Gloucs, found out about the hatch issue and put 2 and 2 together to get 11. The Daily Fail then got hold of the story... What was more interesting was the comms between the two crews as they mused whether they should land, refuel and change cabs in order to get back stateside, as was their original plan. They clearly weren't that enamoured about having to return to Fairford. |
'Any reports for someone finding a B52 crew entry hatch in their back garden?'
DH on GCHQ; at the start of the North bound leg of the orbits ! |
Originally Posted by sandiego89
(Post 10893358)
That’s saying something if they would rather be at Minot rather than Fairford! :}
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Any reports for someone finding a B52 crew entry hatch in their back garden? I'd buy it if is was. Nice little memento. |
Wonder why the Minot-bound aircraft didn't just knock Poland on the head and head straight to Minot? Would they have needed tanking across the pond?
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[QUOTE]Wonder why the Minot-bound aircraft didn't just knock Poland on the head and head straight to Minot? Would they have needed tanking across the pond?[/QUOTE
Because the lack of tanker problem occurred after the planned Fairford - Poland and back part of the mission. And hence yes, they needed refueling before return to Minot as a result of the fuel burn during the Poland mission. |
[QUOTE=roger4;10893527]
Wonder why the Minot-bound aircraft didn't just knock Poland on the head and head straight to Minot? Would they have needed tanking across the pond?[/QUOTE Because the lack of tanker problem occurred after the planned Fairford - Poland and back part of the mission. And hence yes, they needed refueling before return to Minot as a result of the fuel burn during the Poland mission. |
Originally Posted by airsound
(Post 10893088)
. How often do you find one, and sometimes two, B52s in a roughly 13nm orbit, at 10,000ft-ish over rural Gloucestershire - for about 1 hour and 20 minutes? Don't you think it would be interesting to hear what they were doing - particularly perhaps for the people they were overflying?
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Originally Posted by BirdmanBerry
(Post 10893465)
Gloucestershire Live will pick up any non story these days, usually with clickbait titles like "You'll never believe why these American bombers were circling for hours" or some other tripe.
This is the paper that wrote a ‘news article’ because a plane carrying the Pope flew over the county...... |
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