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Russian Su-30SM crashes, said to have been shot down by Su-35 during dogfight training ? Alert 5

Russian Su-30SM crashes, said to have been shot down by Su-35 during dogfight training

Russia’s Western Military District reports that a Su-30SM had crashed in the Tver region on Sept. 22 during a training flight. Both pilots were able to eject safely.

Later in the day, a post on Telegram said the jet has hit by cannon rounds fired from a Su-35 during dogfight training.

The rounds were not remove from the Su-35 and as the pilot pulled the trigger to record the kill, the cannon fired and hit the Su-30SM.

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Are the salt mines still operating?
Sounds like they'll have a new 'worker' soon.

Which opponent of Putin was flying in the first aircraft?

They are not doing well, they lost two Mig 29's in Libya as well

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...intel-official

Adding to ORAC's post

:)

from the replies

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Nothing wrong with their guns tracking or weapons harmonisation - a first-burst splash.

A kill is a kill...

Functional test carried out, "satis".

Of course, we have never done anything like that in the RAF... https://theaviationgeekclub.com/form...m-interceptor/

Wait a minute...
 

Are you honestly trying to tell me that an RAF Phantom once shot down an RAF Jaguar at Bruggen?

This is totally new information.

I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.

BV

And fantom has often told us of his his 'watch this' Harrier kill during airshow practice in Germany with his F-4 XV431.

Buff vs F100 NM ANG
 

Similar thing happened to a couple of Dutch F16s detached to Lossie many years ago. They had been or were about to go strafing on Tain Range and so had loaded guns. With a bit of time / fuel to spare they decided to do a bit of 1 v 1 and the inevitable happened. One of them, I have a feeling it was the Sqn Cdr, had a nice neat hole in the fin. History does not record what happened to the miscreant although, being Dutch, they may well have promoted him.

Thanks Havoc, wasn’t familiar with this shoot down.

Wots the Harrier reversal story?

Ah, XV 431......a heaven sent opportunity you might say.

..After it's non standard return to earth, it has to be said some people were " not entirely happy " when the 431 MU troops decided our priority was to remove the skin with the serial number first and foremost. .....

11/10/1974 XV431
Phantom FGR2 31 Sqn Crashed on take off from Bruggen, West Germany when the wings folded after they had been left unlocked. Both crew ejected

Now, this is no s**t. Or, once upon a time...

In 1972 fantom was up in XV431 and saw a Harrier back at Brüggen practicing for an upcoming air display. fantom wanted to have a little fun and buzz the Harrier while it was in the hover doing its turns for the imaginary crowd.

'Time to buzz the Harrier' 'No fantom, this is not a good idea.' What could possibly go wrong?

XV431 made the impressive high speed pass just as the Harrier did its reverse flight demo and the aircraft collided. :eek:

The Harrier driver ejected and the Phantom limped back up with several feet of the left wing missing. A successful arrested landing was made in the F-4 and fantom had to face the music of a General Court Martial for his poor choices that morning. fantom claims that the paperwork for the GCM had already been filled out before he landed which might only be a minor exagerration.

The GCM launched fantom on a successful peripatetic civilian career flying light twins, 727s, A320s and A330s in the UK and the Middle East.

I've heard multiple versions of this legendary tale over the years including one from a Nimrod crew in Gibraltar in the late 1970s. However I haven't found a listing of the Harrier loss or any other details so this story may be totally apocryphal.

Or not. ;)

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9289bd0b7c.jpg

Clarification appreciated ... I hate stories without an ending!!

Never, sadly, served in RAFG but I always had the impression that they played (dare I say) fast and loose compared with UKAF back then!

Old colleague who got into hunting and ended up shooting a squirrel rather than the deer he was aiming at, would possible agree, however he found his invitations to hunting trips vanished after that. Aside from saving some wildlife it probably saved a few members of the hunting party as well.

Everybody screws up, thankfully most times it means some bent metal rather than a life lost.