RAF Waddington more or less came to standstill today between 1050 & 1105 and the Reds took time out from their training programme at Scampton around the same to show respect to the fallen. Cranwell, on the other hand, decided to fly on regardless throughout the traditional two minute silence. Shame. On the same level as the woman in the black coat in Westminster garden who, about 15 seconds into the two minute silence, pulled out her smart phone to film those around her. No respect, no sense, not a clue.
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Saw Mrs Stead, Mrs Gibson and Mrs Williams on telly on Saturday night. So dignified, but it must still hurt so much... Glad to see they're doing ok and have formed these bonds with the other families. His eldest looks like a fine young man I'm sure Dave would have been proud of. Especially since he seems to take after his mother! |
Landlocked - "I was only a ground tradesman"? No "only" about it - everybody had/has their job to do, from FJ pilot to cook! As soon as I read the original I knew that you or Courtney Mil would be onto it like a flash. You did not let me down :D |
Every November there is a little piece of me that cries for those that we have lost. For me, some of it is personal, as it is for others. But we do it. We stand there and we honour our (lost) friends.
And inside us, a little piece of us is screaming . So we stand there, at Attention, as we hear the Last Post played; some of us hold the Salute until Reveille is played (and we try not to cry). Then we turn and we march away to survive another year. We don't forget our lost friends, we place them somewhere safe such that we don't fall apart and such that they KNOW we won't fall apart. THAT's how we care for them, THAT'S how we keep them alive. |
In one of the early posts on this Thread, I said that I was trying to get the name of a Master Pilot, killed on a sea survival course, added to the Armed Forces Memorial at Alrewas.
Although it took some time whilst the facets were checked and decisions arrived at, I am pleased to say that the name of Master Pilot G D Howarth will be added to the memorial in due course. The only downside is that I have been unable to find any pointers to his family and their whereabouts, although I have located his place of birth and location and date of marriage but there the trail goes cold. Old Duffer |
Lest We Forget
Please allow me a moment of reflection.
The words that follow were penned by a good man, a top man, my best man. Sadly he is no longer with us, taken too soon like many others. There but for the grace of God go I and the countless many that were lucky to have had a narrow escape (or two) along the way thanks to Martin Baker. Until we soar again: Ewan Murdoch Martin Ramsay Paul Gay Mark Hanna Mike Thompson Guy Bancroft-Wilson Dave Frost Leigh Fox Neil McClaghllan John Sewell Byron Clew CJ Weightman Mike Auckland Graham Wardle Falcon Eddie Trevor Roche Mike Harland Dave Stock Mike Sears He’s gone, that friend of mine, His smile, his face, his joy of living. Never more to sit on my wing, To soar the heights totally free. He’s gone, his life spent In one brilliant, beautiful, burst of light. No pain, no thoughts, just darkness. His life glorious to the end. His cheeky arrogance still rings in our ears, His voice is still in our conversation. We talk, we relive, he has not gone. He listens now and smiles. We will not let him go, He lives on in our hearts and in our souls, And we wait patiently for the day, The day when once more we can soar together, totally free. Once you’ve gotten that bit of dust out of your eye, please feel free to add a comment with your own names of those you’ve lost doing the job we love |
Fred Skeets
Dave Stead Andrew Smith Paul Pardoel Gary Nicholson Mark Gibson Patrick Marshall Richard Brown Bob O'Connor David Williams Steven Jones Andy Marshall Gavin Richardson Joe Berry |
Sam Smith
Jack Canham ,DFC,Pathfinder Bert Fraser,-still MIA |
Doug Stein
Chris Rounce Chris Meade Dick Mott Ian Johnson Mark Hanna Jack Thompson Ian Redwood Mike Barnard Bill Green Neil Anderson Nigel Elsdon Max Collier Gary Lennox Kev Weeks Steve Hicks Hylton Price Patrick Marshall |
Great minds think alike
https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...-fallen-3.html
This is my own thread from a few years back, along the same lines. Sadly there are more names to add: Sqn Ldr Andy Bull Sqn Ldr Nic de Candole Sqn Ldr Phil McConell Captain Tom McQueen Mzm Suleiman al Balushi Cpl Jonathan Bayliss BV |
Andy George
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Engines, one of those occasions I wish we had a ‘like’ or ‘care’ facility.
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Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
(Post 10936881)
Seen on the internet recently.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b04683196.jpeg |
Al Riley
Chris Lackman Jerry Ogg |
Tom Wilbourne
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Thread Drift Alert
The memorial shown above says that Kieran Duffy and Norman Dent died on Masirah, Oman. I always understood their accident to have happened in Saudi. Can anyone confirm or deny which is correct please?
BV |
BV.
Sortie was due to land at Masirah for a turn, but crashed en route. Seem to recall crash site was in Oman, but not at, or close to, Masirah (was on loan service there at the time) Sad day as knew Duff well from Linton-good lad. S |
Tornado GR1 ZD718 accident was 140 miles west of Masirah - steep turn at very low level 4 days before the start of the Op DESERT STORM Air Campaign.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/55434 |
Drift complete
Thanks everyone.
BV |
Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09
(Post 10937812)
Tornado GR1 ZD718 accident was 140 miles west of Masirah - steep turn at very low level 4 days before the start of the Op DESERT STORM Air Campaign.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/55434 As my late Pa used to say -"Never fly below half your wingspan". Nick Taylor John E-J Al Curtis Gordie Batt All still on CAP down south. Mog |
Originally Posted by PapaDolmio
(Post 10937020)
Not strictly an RAF Tornado loss I guess, but not forgetting OLt Peter Castner, Sqn Ldr Bernie Towl, TTTE, 17th June 86, Claerwen, Wales.
Wasn't it John Towl? Again, I was there at the time. Student pilot aborted from low level in poor weather, got the recovery wrong leaving the burners in and became disoriented. John ejected them but was outside seat limits. Perhaps it's only RAF jets on the poster. |
Sadly my list is long, with many of the names already posted here so I will not repeat them. But there are some others, very close to home, who will never be forgotten and who constantly remind me of my own mortality:
Bill Graham Tony White ('Big T') Hoof Proudfoot Alex Parr Rest In Peace |
Originally Posted by just another jocky
(Post 10938285)
Interesting. Greg Hurst's crash (Jan 99), actually a mid-air collision, was in a TTTE jet. We were both instructors there at the time. I was one of his pall-bearers. RiP m8.
Wasn't it John Towl? Again, I was there at the time. Student pilot aborted from low level in poor weather, got the recovery wrong leaving the burners in and became disoriented. John ejected them but was outside seat limits. Perhaps it's only RAF jets on the poster. |
In addition to others already mentioned........
Jeremy Hall Steve Wakely Andy Bloxham Jim Downey John Roberts Keith Holland Brian Weatherley Paul Adams |
Brendan Kaye
Jim Lanfranchi |
Amazing to see the names; students, passing acquaintances from various pubs, and so on. One in the latest with whom I shared a soccer tour in Cyprus from Muharraq for example, all bring memories. Yesterday my wife bumped into a squadron crash survivor from 1972, a regular sharer of coffee and cake when not in lockdown. From this encounter I give you a colleague from two squadrons -
Brian Bastable |
I remember on Ground School being told by our instructor
" Laugh, but look around. In a few years 10% of you will no longer be wth us.. That Class included Peter Stacey and Nigel Elsdon........ |
Should our new-found freedom allow travel to Salisbury, Elsdon remembered in lovely Saint Thomas church, with decent breakfast in cafe opposite.
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A few more
Keith Holland
Bruce Cogram Lawrence Warner Tom Bayliff Nigel Storah John Carver Greg Lane USN Dave Sunderland Berndan Hearney Dave Haward Paul Gunnell Ken Hayr We will remember them |
Let me add to the list.........
Mark Hare |
A couple from my past
Arthur Mitchell Chris Taylor Dick Langworthy Brian Jopling And all from my ex RAFG Sqn who I knew Dave Critchley Mark (Jara) Jaroszynski Dick Wharmby Ron Sedlickas Eddie Miskelly Bill Cunningham David Cousins Mike Scouse Brown John Temple Terry (Gus) Angus And those from this forum who are no longer with us from CoffmanStarter through to Danny42c gone but not forgotten. … |
CoffmanStarter through to Danny42c - Very thoughtful additions to the list of the unforgotten, NutLoose.
- Ed |
Thanks, I would like to add Cliffnemo (Clifford Leach) I am unsure if he is no longer with us or if anyone knows, but he started the gaining pilots wings during ww2 thread, he stopped posting and ceased posting on the site below in 2012, it would be a tradgedy if his passing wasn’t remarked on here as he was an inspiration.
View Profile: cliffnemo - RAFCommands Forums Date of BirthJanuary 18, 1923 (98) About cliffnemoBiography:EX WW2 W/O PILOTLocation:LVERPOOLInterests:BIRD, BACCY AND BEEROccupation:RETIRED , THANK GOD |
On this day
Flt Lt Fiona Johnstone PMRAFNS, Master Aircrew Peter Barwell AFC, Cpl Martin Cook PMRAFNS.
Not forgotten |
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11137354)
A couple from my past
And all from my ex RAFG Sqn who I knew Dave Critchley Mark (Jara) Jaroszynski Dick Wharmby Ron Sedlickas Eddie Miskelly Bill Cunningham David Cousins Mike Scouse Brown John Temple Terry (Gus) Angus … |
I will add Bernie Worthington who was on the Nimrod in Canada. We shared a room at Brawdy.
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