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NutLoose 25th Aug 2020 13:49

VC 10 to fly again as a tanker
 
I am surprised none have you picked up on it in the Brunty thread, but ZA150 has been sold with the ambition to get her back into service tanking, see link.

https://ukaviation.news/kepler-aeros...lid=IwAR2kQjEN

Martin the Martian 25th Aug 2020 14:21

And if they couldn't any of those Tristars back in the air I can't see a cat in hell's chance for ZA150.

Saintsman 25th Aug 2020 14:23

Good luck finding spares. 20 years ago they never came back from a trip fully serviceable and I doubt there is any stock sat on shelves waiting to be used.

Though I would like to see it again in the air.

esscee 25th Aug 2020 14:36

Is it April 1st?

GeeRam 25th Aug 2020 14:41

Good luck getting any support from RR for those Conway's.

Tashengurt 25th Aug 2020 15:42

Believe it when I see it.

possel 25th Aug 2020 15:50

Would BAe provide the necessary Design Authority support? Only at a high price, I reckon, but even so I can't see how it could be cost-effective unless they are going to get several going.

Rocket2 25th Aug 2020 16:15

What's the state of the Tristars, have they been scrapped yet?

SASKATOON9999 25th Aug 2020 16:44

Why?
 
We have a perfectly good, modern fleet of Voyagers, currently under utilised?

GeeRam 25th Aug 2020 17:16


Originally Posted by SASKATOON9999 (Post 10870340)
We have a perfectly good, modern fleet of Voyagers, currently under utilised?

Nothing to do with UK needs.
'We' haven't bought it.


GeeRam 25th Aug 2020 17:19


Originally Posted by possel (Post 10870292)
Would BAe provide the necessary Design Authority support? Only at a high price, I reckon, but even so I can't see how it could be cost-effective unless they are going to get several going.

The rumour going around is 'the deal' also includes the two others at Brunty as well as the sims in store at Brooklands museum.

Less Hair 25th Aug 2020 17:26

Wouldn't there be cheaper KC-10 and KC-135 available for tanker needs, now that KC-46 and MRTT and A400M take over quite a bit of tanker work?

DuckDodgers 25th Aug 2020 17:39

This has the Tristar Air LLC debacle written all over it.........NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

Green Flash 25th Aug 2020 17:54

Hasn't the USAF just retired its first KC-10 to the boneyard? Would be better off getting that dusted down.

Just answered my own question - https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...for-retirement


GeeRam 25th Aug 2020 18:17


Originally Posted by Green Flash (Post 10870386)
Hasn't the USAF just retired its first KC-10 to the boneyard? Would be better off getting that dusted down.

KC-10 is a boom tanker, and I suspect the requirement is for hose n drogue, as someone has pointed out, this sounds like a continuation or variation of the continuing USN Omega/AirTanker debacle.

PAXboy 25th Aug 2020 18:59

One of the amazing things about human beings is to hold on to the past - long after it has past.

I adored the VC-10, it was magnificent but it is gone.
Look at marks & Spencer - for years they have been trying to rescue the clothing side of the business. Yet, it was apparent more than 15 years ago that it was dead in the water. Still they spend money trying to make it work. The only part of M&S that works is the food hall.

Let this beautiful bird rest in our memories.

DaveUnwin 25th Aug 2020 19:20

I'm quite fond of saying "never say never" but on this occasion I'm prepared to make an exception. This will NEVER happen.

GAZIN 25th Aug 2020 19:44

They could use the Guppy, currently at Bournemouth to transport the sims and spare parts.

frodo_monkey 25th Aug 2020 20:40


Originally Posted by GeeRam (Post 10870399)
KC-10 is a boom tanker, and I suspect the requirement is for hose n drogue, as someone has pointed out, this sounds like a continuation or variation of the continuing USN Omega/AirTanker debacle.

Nope, KC10 has a centreline drogue too - at least the ones I’ve got gas from did. The tanker of choice if you couldn’t have a Voyager!

GeeRam 25th Aug 2020 20:48


Originally Posted by frodo_monkey (Post 10870490)
Nope, KC10 has a centreline drogue too - at least the ones I’ve got gas from did. The tanker of choice if you couldn’t have a Voyager!

Maybe Omega have already got first dibs on that recently retired one then, to add to the one they already have?


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