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NutLoose 14th Jul 2020 11:11

British military to shed some of their blast proof vehicles
 
Nearly 750 armored vehicles purchased by the British Ministry of Defence to combat the threat of roadside bombs in Afghanistan are being axed from the Army’s force structure.
Bye Bye to the Mastiff, Ridgeback and Wolfhound armored fleets which are to be pensioned off in the latest drawdown of vehicles under the Land Environment Fleet Optimisation Plan (LEFOP) by the British Army, MoD procurement minister Jeremy lawmakers this month.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/e..._source=clavis

It would appear the navy is struggling to form the carrier fleets as well.

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/20...-strike-group/

Capt Scribble 14th Jul 2020 11:21

Maybe an investment to counter the Chelsea tractors that think they own the roads. :E

Evalu8ter 14th Jul 2020 12:15

There’s a bit more to the story. The MRV-P (Multi Role Vehicle - Protected) contract has been awarded to Oshkosh for 700+ highly survivable JLTVs, with the potential for more - MoD just need to clear the Business Case. Boxer has also been ordered. What the Army is doing is rationalising all of the various UOR buys and their complex (read expensive....) support arrangements. We forget that UORs are inevitably compromises, and biased towards the ‘T’ in ‘TCP’. They are also (unsurprisingly) optimised to the Campaign they are purchased to support, so may be poorly configured for more general use or long term supportability and upgrade.

madhon 14th Jul 2020 17:24


Originally Posted by Evalu8ter (Post 10836884)
There’s a bit more to the story. The MRV-P (Multi Role Vehicle - Protected) contract has been awarded to Oshkosh for 700+ highly survivable JLTVs, with the potential for more - MoD just need to clear the Business Case. Boxer has also been ordered. What the Army is doing is rationalising all of the various UOR buys and their complex (read expensive....) support arrangements. We forget that UORs are inevitably compromises, and biased towards the ‘T’ in ‘TCP’. They are also (unsurprisingly) optimised to the Campaign they are purchased to support, so may be poorly configured for more general use or long term supportability and upgrade.

Not quite right, the JLTV is only for MRV-P Package 1, which are the command & liaison and utility roles. Package 2 for an ambulance and troop transport is still up for selection, though the only competitors are now the Bushmaster and the GD Eagle 6x6

pr00ne 14th Jul 2020 17:54

Nutloose,

Totally inaccurate and misleading thread title, try;

"British military to shed some of their blast proof vehicles, keep others, and order some new ones..."

T28B 14th Jul 2020 20:38

As Mod:
pr00ne, I've revised it. Do you feel that title will suffice? Your suggestion was a bit long for a headline.
If any of our contributors can link this matter (that Nutloose has brought to our attention) to military aviation, to whit, how many one can carry in what kind of transport aircraft, that would be of interest to at least one reader. ;)

NutLoose 14th Jul 2020 22:40

It also effects the ability of the Army to conduct similar future operations, which would have a knock on effect to putting aviation on the ground.
I did also link to the ongoing probs with the carrier fleet which involve the aviation side.

RAFEngO74to09 14th Jul 2020 23:00

The RAF Regiment currently use Jackal, Foxhound and Panther.

Toadstool 15th Jul 2020 05:34

I flew from Bastion to KAF on a J with a Jackal beside me.

Evalu8ter 15th Jul 2020 07:52

JLTV fits in C17, C130 and A400. Can be underslung by a -47 and -53......

Green Flash 15th Jul 2020 08:59

MPs have accused the Ministry of Defence of a "lamentable" failure to properly fund new military equipment required for the armed forces.

BBC report




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