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KPax 25th Jun 2020 22:08

RAF A400 Birdstrike Spain
 
Not sure this will buff out.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ae7e4d4402.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f81838b1eb.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....937a1cf389.jpg

OmegaV6 25th Jun 2020 22:15

Ouch .... reminds me very much of one we had in the Falklands ... doing a reccy over "Bird Island" of all places ....... this was the "temporary" repair to return to UK, whereby it went to Cambridge for several weeks !!


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d704e88572.jpg

cynicalint 25th Jun 2020 22:24

To paraphrase a Nimrod SNCO in beam window post bird-strike on landing at Gib:-
"Crew Chief, Captain, damage report please"
Captain Crew Chief, I'm no vet, but I don't think it will fly again"
((c) R**^** F, Nimrod AEOp).

N707ZS 25th Jun 2020 22:26

Strange angle of entry or was there a duct somewhere to catch the bird, must have been a big one.

Una Due Tfc 25th Jun 2020 22:37


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 10821133)
Strange angle of entry or was there a duct somewhere to catch the bird, must have been a big one.

Pitots etc?

ShyTorque 25th Jun 2020 22:40

Looks like it was wearing a crash helmet!

N707ZS 25th Jun 2020 23:19

Had a quick search for a photo of the damaged area without damage and this photo appeared of damage to a Spanish example again by bird strike. They don't seem to do well against our feathered friends.

https://www.aviation24.be/military-a...goza-air-base/

NutLoose 25th Jun 2020 23:19

It must have been static when it entered

StopStart 25th Jun 2020 23:23


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 10821133)
Strange angle of entry or was there a duct somewhere to catch the bird, must have been a big one.

No protrusions there, just static vents. Guess the impact just punctured the skin and then peeled it back....


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....75b91f4cc7.jpg

TBM-Legend 26th Jun 2020 06:16

These "plastic" budgies don't like taking hits it seems...

N707ZS 26th Jun 2020 06:38

So against hostiles you could be a sitting duck....

treadigraph 26th Jun 2020 07:18

If it was a duck, to whom do they send the bill?

Green Flash 26th Jun 2020 07:24

It was a deliberate attack, the aircraft was being Stork'd ....

ORAC 26th Jun 2020 07:41

They were only winged.....

treadigraph 26th Jun 2020 07:51

Was a prop feathered?

dctyke 26th Jun 2020 07:54

Don’t the RAF have the organisation and skills to do permanent repairs to this sort of damage any more?

CAEBr 26th Jun 2020 08:38

Isn't that one out in Spain at the moment. Manufacturer's test flight ? MoD's No Claims Bonus should be unaffected unless EADS try to claim it was like that when they dropped it off :oh:


sturb199 26th Jun 2020 09:42


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10821366)
These "plastic" budgies don't like taking hits it seems...

Nothing "plastic" about that piece of skin, very much aluminium!

sturb199 26th Jun 2020 09:45


Originally Posted by dctyke (Post 10821449)
Don’t the RAF have the organisation and skills to do permanent repairs to this sort of damage any more?

They do indeed still have the organisation and skills, 71 Inspection and Repair Sqn based at RAF Wittering are the specialists.

Just This Once... 26th Jun 2020 10:02

I complement the pilot for their extreme low-flying skills. Hitting a chicken was unfortunate.

dead_pan 26th Jun 2020 10:18


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 10821133)
Strange angle of entry or was there a duct somewhere to catch the bird, must have been a big one.

Given the dimple ahead of the main hole, it looks as though this wasn't the first point of impact. Maybe it rolled along the fuselage and thought "OK, here will do"?

Has the PPRuNe accident investigation board been convened to collate the FlightRadar data, ATC comms, structural plans of the Atlas, recipe options for the carcass etc etc?

ShyTorque 26th Jun 2020 10:22

The bird was on the right. Shouldn’t they have given way to it? :)

Green Flash 26th Jun 2020 10:28

They did remember to de-frost it first, right?

hoss183 26th Jun 2020 10:31

Are they A400s fitted with a galley? 'Lunch just got delivered sir'

esscee 26th Jun 2020 10:42

"Just a scratch" as John Cleese said many years ago.

sittingstress 26th Jun 2020 10:50


Originally Posted by Green Flash (Post 10821422)
It was a deliberate attack, the aircraft was being Stork'd ....

I bet the engineers were not choughed.

Chu Chu 26th Jun 2020 11:49


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 10821609)
Given the dimple ahead of the main hole, it looks as though this wasn't the first point of impact. Maybe it rolled along the fuselage and thought "OK, here will do"?

It seems odd to me for it to roll along like that and still be hitting the fuselage with much force. Presumably the normal airflow over the static ports is parallel to the skin.

On the other hand, the dimples forward of the hole look (at least to my uneducated eye) like they reflect closely spaced frames behind the skin. But no structure is visible through the hole itself. Maybe that has something to do with it.

aeromech3 26th Jun 2020 12:21

Took a Marabou Stork to do that sort of damage, similar area, to a BAC1-11 over Kenya circa 1975, don't build them like that anymore.

G-ARZG 26th Jun 2020 12:25

C'mon Ppruners, no Metars yet?

Shackman 26th Jun 2020 12:39

From Beverley days - who was overtaking who? Or was the bird so surprised at overtaking it turned round for another look!

BDAttitude 26th Jun 2020 13:34

Alors, fetchez le poulet!

scarecrow450 26th Jun 2020 13:52

How's the bird. ?

sycamore 26th Jun 2020 13:54

It was after the co-pilots lunch boxes......

jmmoric 26th Jun 2020 13:55


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 10821179)
It must have been static when it entered

That was actually fun as hell :E

cpt 26th Jun 2020 15:03

That's good the second world war bombers were not made of plastic ! )))))

Dan Gerous 26th Jun 2020 18:58

I heard the ECM exploded when they fired off the Chiff Chaff.

atakacs 28th Jun 2020 05:16

There was another one a month or so ago, also in Spain.. seems there are lots of large birds there, some with turboprops.

Two's in 28th Jun 2020 23:26


Originally Posted by StopStart (Post 10821183)
No protrusions there, just static vents. Guess the impact just punctured the skin and then peeled it back....

You can see where it deforms the skin as it travels backwards, with obvious deflections around the frames. It might have just left a big gouge, but when it hit the static pressure assembly, it ripped that and the associated skin out. There was a lot more more simple skin to hit than electronic or air data gubbins, so that chicken was not having a good day.


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