Try loading a LJ35A with a stretcher sometime, now that is interesting. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10818404)
I have seen that, or getting someone strapped on a stretcher out of a Seneca as I once witnessed, that involved tipping him on his side lol and levering him around the door frame.
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Originally Posted by Green Flash
(Post 10817790)
Could a re-worked Sentinal airframe or two do the job?
The door sill is too high and narrow for most stretchers. Not to say it couldn't be done with enough £££ Ttfn |
What surprises me is
https://www.key.aero/article/raf-ada...3s-medical-use According to the service, the aircraft – serials ZE707 (c/n E2188) and ZE708 (c/n E2211) – were “adapted to carry medical patients in record time and at no cost,” being able to “transport critically ill patients and RAF medical staff for the first time.” The project was conducted through the air arm’s Astra programme, which aims to encourage innovation across the RAF. This has been an amazing achievement in all areas bringing together [No 32 (TR) [b]Squadron’s] residual capacity, [TMW’s] aeromedical evacuation (aeromed) capability and the design, production and engineering skills of [the] Joint Air Delivery Test [and] Evaluation Unit This project embodies the very spirit of Astra, using existing military aircraft in a dual-hatted role and optimising use of key defence assets. TMW have never delivered aeromed on the BAe 146 in this manner before and it has been achieved at zero cost and in record time by smart use of pre-existing, available assets,” Bland added. The engineering work was conducted by the JADTEU at RAF Brize Norton, Oxfordshire. Within a fortnight of receiving the task, the unit had designed and produced a serviceable solution which then entered a prototype phase. The service states that the trials “determined the adaptations were suitable” for all forms of aeromed missions, including for use by the service’s Critical Care Air Support Team. but it was particularly gratifying in this instance to be able to design, test and manufacture a solution |
NutLoose,
More research confirms that the two CC3 aircraft were built and certificated as 146 QCs. (cf #13). The play on words - 'no cost', could be seen as no additional (external) cost above a new role for which the aircraft is suited to undertake as a multi role, quick change aircraft.. The headline medical role could represent the in-house adaptation (JADTEU) of existing medical cabin modules used in other, older, aircraft types, by fitting the equipment onto self contained, quick-change pallets, opposed to requiring cabin refits on other aircraft. Thus 'cost' is no more than a normal adaption and change of operational roles, for which the aircraft is ideal. Bean counters might play with offset cost-saving on other types, or increased productivity in their roles - more tanker capability, (or aircraft for HRH / Government use). |
Originally Posted by ivor toolbox
(Post 10818504)
Probably not without a substantial rework.
The door sill is too high and narrow for most stretchers. Not to say it couldn't be done with enough £££ Ttfn |
Originally Posted by air pig
(Post 10818105)
Try loading a LJ35A with a stretcher sometime, now that is interesting.
Even better...a re role to normal passenger ops and back again! Ttfn |
Originally Posted by air pig
(Post 10818762)
There are commercially available stretcher hoists or ramps available for aircraft C604 or Global Express size. Aeromedical stretchers are about 2 feet wide, they are built for utility not comfort. The big problem the civilian industry faces is the repatriation of the obese in terms of strtcher load bearing capability, aircraft loading strategies and aircraft size, all have health safety and cost implications.
take up much space in the cabin if installed as a cabin mod in aeroplane ( the door retains its airstair) , or you have to provide it to the aerodrome handling agency...God forbid they ever buy their own. Company I used to work for operated 2 Learjets in med fit. One 45, one 35A Ttfn |
you have to provide it to the aerodrome handling agency...God forbid they ever buy their own In the US, FBOs are a bit better stocked in my experience, but even then there can be significant gaps in knowledge. In my limited dealings with mil repatriations, they expect you to have your own kit and do your own thing anyway - perhaps this is how the mil works. |
Originally Posted by ivor toolbox
(Post 10819235)
I know, and what wonderful contraptions they are,
take up much space in the cabin if installed as a cabin mod in aeroplane ( the door retains its airstair) , or you have to provide it to the aerodrome handling agency...God forbid they ever buy their own. Company I used to work for operated 2 Learjets in med fit. One 45, one 35A Ttfn |
Originally Posted by air pig
(Post 10819330)
Was your company UK based and recently stopped operations?
I’m not sure what company Ivor Toolbox is referring to. |
Originally Posted by thetimesreader84
(Post 10819355)
That particular company never had a 35a, they had 2/3 LR-45s.
I’m not sure what company Ivor Toolbox is referring to. |
Learjet 35s are now on the German register and based at Birmingham.
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
(Post 10819979)
Learjet 35s are now on the German register and based at Birmingham.
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