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Lonewolf_50 11th Jun 2020 23:03


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10808866)
We disagree often but we also agree often and this is one.

NATO was set up to counter Warsaw pact, it broke up and NATO had spent decades trying to find a reason why it could still suck at the Taypayers bank account.

Yes, and they arrived at, all 16 nations, including YOURS, the decision that "out of area operations" were in the interests of collective security. I was around when that was going on, in NATO as my job, and I was rather surprised that the fundamental nature of the alliance was thus transformed.
Given the political tenor of the times in the US, I fully expected that by the end of the 90's the US would be out of NATO, as its purpose had been fulfilled.
Glad I didn't put money on that bet, I'd have lost.

West Coast 12th Jun 2020 05:37


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10808866)
We disagree often but we also agree often and this is one.

NATO was set up to counter Warsaw pact, it broke up and NATO had spent decades trying to find a reason why it could still suck at the Taypayers bank account. Many of the people there need an enemy to continue to justify their self worth / wealth and power.

They need a bogeyman and will invent one to keep relevant.

Now before you think we had a mind meld, let me be clear. Vlad is a threat, just not one big enough to need the US in NATO to keep him in check.

Asturias56 12th Jun 2020 16:49

"Yes, and they arrived at, all 16 nations, including YOURS, the decision that "out of area operations" were in the interests of collective security"

I don't think anyone has cared to make this clear to the respective electorates Wolf - I really can't see anyone in the EU backing action against China - and even the Brits will drag their feet something terrible.

42... 12th Jun 2020 16:49

No one is fighting China, they will take what they want when they want because the youth of today are apathetic. Unless they want to control a downtown section of Seattle, then they are all bristly, until they find Starbucks is closed.


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