RAF planes await order to set off to collect PPE from Turkey
Article on The Guardian website this afternoon.
RAF planes await order to set off to collect PPE from Turkey Three RAF planes waiting to pick up a shipment of 400,000 protective gowns and other equipment urgently needed for the NHS remain on the tarmac at Brize Norton because the kit has yet to be released by Turkey. |
A400 ZM416 currently is in decent about 30nm NW of Istanbul.
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If the A400 is “pre-positioning”, why does the other A400 and C17 not pre-position, if not to Turkey, possibly Akrotiri, unless UK gov does not believe that all the kit will be provided?
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
(Post 10757151)
If the A400 is “pre-positioning”, why does the other A400 and C17 not pre-position, if not to Turkey, possibly Akrotiri, unless UK gov does not believe that all the kit will be provided?
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
(Post 10757550)
Why would you send aircraft before their load is ready to be collected? They can still be used for other commitments until needed. ;)
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BA have flown multiple return trips to Shanghai with B777 bringing in PPE in Holds, and cabin loaded. Carry double LR augmented crew.
No layover, 2 hour turnaround and straight back. Gets the kit to the UK in 28 hrs. |
BA 777s (and 747s) have proper rest facilities on board.
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Originally Posted by cessnapete
(Post 10757780)
BA have flown multiple return trips to Shanghai with B777 bringing in PPE in Holds, and cabin loaded. Carry double LR augmented crew.
No layover, 2 hour turnaround and straight back. Gets the kit to the UK in 28 hrs. |
So why not have BA pick up the PPE from Turkey.....?
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Yes sorry, my post not meant as criticism of RAF. But the airline appears has more spare capacity and proven flexibility of operations, than the RAF, in respect of this urgent requirement.
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" Air Mobility Force that is still in heavy demand"
Doing what? Nothing is happening out there.............. |
Update in The Guardian.
Turkish PPE flight: only 'slim' chance goods will arrive in UK today |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 10757930)
" Air Mobility Force that is still in heavy demand"
Doing what? Nothing is happening out there.............. |
They seem to have been taking the opportunity to visit a number of civvie airfields - Luton as well..................
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 10757930)
" Air Mobility Force that is still in heavy demand"
Doing what? Nothing is happening out there.............. |
ZM416 just airborne from Istanbul by the looks as RRR4995
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Originally Posted by cessnapete
(Post 10757780)
BA have flown multiple return trips to Shanghai with B777 bringing in PPE in Holds, and cabin loaded. Carry double LR augmented crew.
No layover, 2 hour turnaround and straight back. Gets the kit to the UK in 28 hrs. |
Originally Posted by Dockwell
(Post 10758648)
Virgin are doing the same 3 x a week with a 787
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C-17 just departed that direction though I’m not sure of destination.
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At the risk of sounding cynical, is the use of the RAF for this task not just a PR stunt to make it look like the Government are pulling out all of the stops?
In truth the deployment of a military aircraft fo the trip to Turkey probably made it marginally more difficult from an administrative perspective, and the task could easily have been completed by the civilian airfreight sector, which is demonstrably still operational and effective if the fruit (South America) and vegetables (Africa) in my fridge are anything to go by. Come to think of it, would it not be better to outsource the procurement of PPE to Tesco/Asda/Sainsburys who seem to be able to manage their supply chains rather well? Ps Interesting that NHS Scotland managed to charter a 747 to bring in a load of PPE in to Prestwick at the weekend. |
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