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langleybaston 8th Apr 2020 14:42

Among shadow ministerial appointments, that of Home Sec brought resounding cheers from many Police officers, two of whom in my family. Interestingly, I have seen absolutely no comment in print or on line for Ms Abbott's precipitous descent down the food chain.

pr00ne 8th Apr 2020 14:56

langleybaston,

I think you will find that she is quite unwell, and has been for some time.

Cornish Jack 8th Apr 2020 15:04

Took a few hours longer than I thought but the stones have been raised slightly for the usual well-rehearsed slime to emerge again. While the practitioners couldn't be expected to recognise 'old world' values of constancy, and dedicated application to duty, displayed by those they denigrate, their enthusiasm for the self-interest characteristics of their modern-day 'heroes' engenders severe nausea. The collection of 'me first' believers inhabiting high office demonstrates 'values' which their predecessors of last century would (and do) find unacceptably anti-social ... but, why concern oneself when there's profit to be made?

pr00ne 8th Apr 2020 15:26

Cornish Jack,


What? Values etc have changed hardly at all, we still had liars and crooks in Parliament in every decade from about 1600 to now, only I think it fair to say that now there are considerably fewer. "Old world" values are NOT of constancy and dedicated application to duty, they were more about keeping a clear elite status and making sure that the bulk of humanity stayed firmly where it was, in a society where your family name and wealth meant far more than your ability or capability.

The idea of a meritocracy was anathema to these people.

Thankfully it is far less so today.

NutLoose 8th Apr 2020 15:28

Langley, She did announce that she too would fall on her sword when Jeremy left... or was it fall on Jeremy's sword?.. I might have porked that one up...

Either way she never intended to remain in cabinet after his departure, probably knowing that whoever came into office would have had the door slapping on her posterior on day one, as she hopefully descends into obscurity again... and long may it last..

teeteringhead 8th Apr 2020 15:29

pr00ne


(as were many others)
for example:

hundreds and hundreds of contractors, NHS staff, delivery drivers etc etc. etc.
As I am now retired I no longer manage staff, but have managed quite a few successfully in the past. I am aware of the Bristol post's requirements from the job advert:


In line with the Workforce Diversity and Inclusion Strategy, the post holder will develop, lead on and evaluate a programme of work integral to the organisational development plan, focusing in particular on diversity and inclusion. The post holder will ensure the programme is delivered in accordance with the Trust’s Strategy, Vision, Values and desired culture to ensure that the Trust is equipped to provide a world class patient experience and a great place to work for its staff.
My apologies for one mistake: the pay on offer is £45k-£51k.

NutLoose 8th Apr 2020 15:33


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10743545)
57mm,

And also not forgetting that Sergeant Fred Mulley was captured in France in 1940 and spent 5 years as a POW. He was also up until the early hours in the House of Commons (in the period before time limits on debates was brought in) the night before the Royal review...

At least he got a good kip in while reviewing the RAF along with Betty
...
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....736b10049e.jpg


pr00ne 8th Apr 2020 15:57

Nutloose,

He was 60 years old and had been up all the previous day in a debate, voting at 4am in the House of Commons, then went straight to Finningley. I think he needs cutting some slack for that. I did chuckle though at the following week's Private Eye that suggested he should be tried for treason for "sleeping with the Queen.."

Haraka 8th Apr 2020 18:01

"Going for a Mulley" entered the RAF euphemism lexicon soon after...
.

JENKINS 8th Apr 2020 18:02

Shame that Mulley photograph was not sufficiently wide to show my chum standing at the left edge.

langleybaston 8th Apr 2020 18:46


Originally Posted by JENKINS (Post 10744023)
Shame that Mulley photograph was not sufficiently wide to show my chum standing at the left edge.

and I was a bit further away in the Met. Office.

Cat Techie 8th Apr 2020 19:19

I am happy that my daughter at last has started her medical career as a Physicains Associate. 5 years of hard graft to get there. Straight into the biggest health crisis she will likely see in her life. Praise be on the likes of her, rather that the waffle I have read on this thread. And praise to the military involved with this pandemic. Stay safe all.

Bill Macgillivray 8th Apr 2020 20:46

Cat Techie,

How right you are, and all the best to your daughter! I have two daughters in the medical profession and have nothing but praise for them and all their colleagues at this time!
Forget the "smart" comments - be thankful for the likes of them and the military doing the sh** work during this difficult time!

Bill

Herod 8th Apr 2020 21:30

Cat Techie. Congratulations to your daughter, and the wish she stays safe. I second Bill's thanks to all the people doing the graft through this crisis.

Wensleydale 8th Apr 2020 21:58


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10743545)
57mm,

Not forgetting that Major Dennis Healey was at one time the beach master at Anzio in 1944 as well as serving on the front line in North Africa, Sicily and Italy...

And also not forgetting that Sergeant Fred Mulley was captured in France in 1940 and spent 5 years as a POW. He was also up until the early hours in the House of Commons (in the period before time limits on debates was brought in) the night before the Royal review...

Was it the case that the afore mentioned Sgt Mulley was in the defence seat when the political decision was taken to buy the Nimrod AEW3?

NutLoose 9th Apr 2020 09:25


Originally Posted by Cat Techie (Post 10744091)
Praise be on the likes of her, rather that the waffle I have read on this thread. And praise to the military involved with this pandemic. Stay safe all.

Waffle? were just getting warmed up ;) .... Congrats on your daughter, long may she have a distinguished career and stay safe.

langleybaston 9th Apr 2020 20:52


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10743850)
langleybaston,

I think you will find that she is quite unwell, and has been for some time.

That is immaterial: her deep dislike of the Police transcends her state of health. I deplore the one, and wish the other much improved.

Jackonicko 9th Apr 2020 23:54


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10743850)
langleybaston,

I think you will find that she is quite unwell, and has been for some time.

Are we talking more than the diabetes she's been using as a convenient excuse for some years? Something that would explain her recent 'confusion', the mismatched shoe incident, etc.?

pr00ne 10th Apr 2020 08:57

langleybaston,

No it is not. You queried the lack of comment on her decline, I gave you a reason why.

Jackonicko,

I think you'll find it is something far more serious, ask a real journo, they all know.

longer ron 10th Apr 2020 09:06


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10745543)
Jackonicko,

I think you'll find it is something far more serious, ask a real journo, they all know.

So absolutely unfit for her job then !


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