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It occurs to me that the Captain may have been given direct instructions over the radio "from home" (The Capital) to do whatever is needed to commandeer that vessel. When firing shots didn't do the trick and he reported back "they are not following instructions to come with us to port" then someone (significantly senior to the Captain) "back home" told him to shoulder/ram the other ship to influence their course.
The Captain, not wanting to be relieved followed his orders to the letter. Did it happen that way? No idea, but it might have. Micro management has become quite the thing in this information age of instantaneous communications. (Glad to see that all of the ship's personnel were retrieved from the water). |
Video Emerges Of Venezuelan Navy Ship Firing On And Colliding With Cruise Ship Before Sinking
The video, which the Venezuelan Navy released and is heavily edited, shows a Venezuelan seaman firing an AK-47 at the ship and then the two ships impacting, with the patrol boat quickly taking on water. The incident occurred in the early hours of March 30th, 2020, and the cruise ship, which was supposedly undergoing repairs at the time, was clearly making little if any speed through relatively calm waters. |
From the video it seems they parked themselves at close quarters beam on in front of the Resolute in an effort to impede the Resolutes progress, extremely low speed collision.
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I should like to doff my cap to the captain of the 'Resolute', he managed to sink an aggressive naval vessel with his ship basically out of action with engine problems, well done sir, your ship certainly lived up to her name.
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So this was right before the Venezuelan Navy became the Venezuelan swim team right?
Coat, hat... |
Now they have a third submarine.
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Originally Posted by Thirsty
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So this was right before the Venezuelan Navy became the Venezuelan swim team right?
Coat, hat... (And thanks for the laugh, the Missus looked across the room at me and asked "what's so funny over there?") |
They should get together with the Norwegian navy for some exercises, now that would be interesting to watch.
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I can see the captains report now, I came upon a disabled ship adrift, I fired a warning shot across his bow then tore mine off... And if that wasn't bad enough I then brought home the video showing how inept we were, rather than letting it go down with the ship.
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Originally Posted by megan
(Post 10739920)
From the video it seems they parked themselves at close quarters beam on in front of the Resolute in an effort to impede the Resolutes progress, extremely low speed collision.
When the time comes they could make a nice modern office desk out of her decking and send it to the President; a Resolute desk two.:E |
A novel way of breaking the ice with the Venezuelans.
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Is that a female voice you can hear on the bridge of the Venezuelan vessel.....?
Hat, coat, |
Was there not a very smart man who once said..."I think we will need a bigger boat"!:)
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Originally Posted by Good Vibs
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Was there not a very smart man who once said..."I think we will need a bigger boat"!:)
An ad lib I believe... |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10739774)
Ohhh dear...we were right Jack ;)
They would have had a bit of a dilemma, if the ship had responded and they took the crew off, doesn’t the law of the sea require you to land the said survivors at the nearest port, which would have been the one they were trying to get them to go in the first place.. :) .. |
The Resolute Captain had an issue that makes his actions in not rescuing understandable. There were 32 crew on his ship and he would have been rescuing 44 possibly still armed opposition. What do you think the outcome would have been had he rescued them? Would not have ended well for the Resolute crew.
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Originally Posted by megan
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The Resolute Captain had an issue that makes his actions in not rescuing understandable. There were 32 crew on his ship and he would have been rescuing 44 possibly still armed opposition. What do you think the outcome would have been had he rescued them? Would not have ended well for the Resolute crew.
I agree with your post completely, sorry if my post may have come across as slightly sarcastic. I was thinking the skipper had a win in not being possibly held in port if he had to deliver the rescued crew. |
The ship can take 146 passengers with about the same number of crew. Properly victualled with disposables the Venezuelans would have got around 6,000 toilet rolls.
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
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The ship can take 146 passengers with about the same number of crew. Properly victualled with disposables the Venezuelans would have got around 6,000 toilet rolls.
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The Venezuelans should have outsourced the job to Somalia.
Their seafarers have a lot of experience in this type of operation. |
Do we have any neutral plot of the actual position where it all happened?
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Only depiction I've seen. Inner circle around the island I assume is the 12 mile territorial waters limit, the outer circle the 24 mile contiguous zone, though the depiction seems in error as reports say the Resolute was 13 miles from the island, and the scaling of the rings seems at odds.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f11f666246.jpg |
There is more to this than meets the eye at a time when the US has gathered a number of naval and air assets from Europe, the Pacific and home bases to undertake operations (Note: not exercises)
E3's, Helicopters, Destroyers and amphibious vessels have not been deployed to the Venezuelan Coastal region on this scale before. The Russians have also dealt themselves into a potential confrontation. IG |
are you suggesting the Germans & Portuguese are in cahoots with the US on a possible "Change of Regime" ?/
"The 403ft RCGS Resolute is a luxury liner which sails under a Portuguese flag and is designed for voyages in Antarctica.It had been drifting 13 miles off La Tortuga, an uninhabited Venezuelan island 60 miles off the northern coast, according to its owner. Columbia, a German company," Trump would be murdered by the press if he launches a military adventure when Americans are dying left right & centre |
This is the best I can find.
https://forum.gcaptain.com/t/cruise-...d-wins/54850/2 |
Trump would be murdered by the press if he launches a military adventure when Americans are dying left right & centre Esper published a list of the forces mobilized for the mission, including Navy destroyers, Coast Guard cutters, Navy littoral combat ships, helicopters, Navy P-8 patrol aircraft, along with Air Force E-3 AWACS and E-8 JSTARS to carry out airborne surveillance, control, and communications. The operation includes security forces assistance brigades. At the press conference Wednesday, Gen. Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said there were “thousands” of sailors, Coast Guardsmen, soldiers, airmen and Marines involved. Some experts have been surprised by some of the assets mobilized to the region. “There is some serious military hardware listed here,” said Adam Isaacson, the director of the Defense Oversight program at the Washington Office on Latin America. “I can’t recall the last time there were U.S. Navy destroyers in the Caribbean or the eastern Pacific coast [on operations, not exercises]. And each E-3 AWACS plane costs more than a quarter-billion dollars,” he said on Twitter. According to the U.S. Southern Command, in charge of carrying out the operation in the Caribbean and the Pacific Eastern coast, those aircraft have been in use in the region. “AWACs is one of the aircraft we have used to conduct detection and monitoring operations in the past,” José Ruiz, a media relations officer at Southcom, told the Miami Herald. “Insofar as Navy ships are concerned, flight-deck capable ships are one of the assets that comprise the kind of force package that enables the disruption of illicit drugs flowing into the U.S.” Such Coast Guard “force packages” — patrol aircraft, ships with flight decks, helicopters and law enforcement detachments — are standard in counternarcotics operations, Ruiz said. Bit of a weighty package for a narco operation??? IG |
Originally Posted by Imagegear
(Post 10743359)
There is more to this than meets the eye at a time when the US has gathered a number of naval and air assets from Europe, the Pacific and home bases to undertake operations (Note: not exercises)
E3's, Helicopters, Destroyers and amphibious vessels have not been deployed to the Venezuelan Coastal region on this scale before. The Russians have also dealt themselves into a potential confrontation. IG Bay of Pigs and all that ?? David |
"The vertical scrapes on the bow of the liner look as though she rode up over the corvette (as that acute angled ice-strengthened prow is designed to do),"
I once crewed on an Ice Hardened ship. We were docking in a very tight Scottish port and moving a less than 1 knot when the bow gently touched the jetty, The ship rose effortlessly to an angle of 30 degrees till about 30 feet overhung the jetty, she then slipped quietly back into the water. Any ship approaching the bow of an ice classed ship does so at her peril, as the unfortunate Venezuelan commander has found to his sorrow. |
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutto.../#44dc6cf77a2d
Apparently it was the visible inflatables on board the Resolute that got the navy excited about possible mercenary landings. Quote: "Accusations of a plot involving mercenaries go back to before the incident. On March 22, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro accused Colombia and opposition leader Juan Guaido of plotting to kill him. He accused the U.S. of bankrolling the operation. The alleged plot, later described by Information Minister Jorge Rodriguez, included paid hitmen from several Central American countries." |
Curacao (CUR) has seen quite a range of visitors over the Chavez and Maduro ruling periods. Quite a range of military "kit" as you residents east of the colonies say. ;)
I'd have to think seriously which aircraft type of several nations hasn't enjoyed a posting there from small and fast, large carriers of noise makers as well as those with long range electronic vision of a few countries. |
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