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NutLoose 2nd Apr 2020 10:21

MOD calls up 3000 reservists
 
See

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...se/ar-BB122kSg

Whenurhappy 2nd Apr 2020 13:56

And Sky show a picture of OWOB that hasn't been used by the MOD for about 5 years...

Mil-26Man 2nd Apr 2020 14:17


And Sky show a picture of OWOB that hasn't been used by the MOD for about 5 years...
I imagine you sardonically noting, "Er, I think you'll find that those are Tracked Armoured Fighting Reconnaissance Vehicles", or some such whenever such vehicles are called 'tanks' in the news, willfully missing the point just to make a point.

Whenurhappy 3rd Apr 2020 04:13


Originally Posted by Mil-26Man (Post 10736965)
I imagine you sardonically noting, "Er, I think you'll find that those are Tracked Armoured Fighting Reconnaissance Vehicles", or some such whenever such vehicles are called 'tanks' in the news, willfully missing the point just to make a point.

By getting basic information so wrong, it questions the veracity and integrity of their reporting, sadly.

Martin the Martian 3rd Apr 2020 09:22

No, it's quite simple. If it has:

A) tracks
B) a gun
C) armour

It must be a tank.:ugh:

Vortex Hoop 4th Apr 2020 09:22

Ooh-er, I’m not RAuxAF, but still a bit nervous that the recently retired will be called out. I have another 10 years of call-out liability left after leaving at 16/38 point and my civvie role has just been furloughed. So I may be seen as an idle pair of hands looking for a job...

VinRouge 4th Apr 2020 10:00

If my existing salary, pension benefits, private health care, work life cover and existing military pension aren’t continued, any regular reserve call up letter will be getting a stiff ignoring. Looking at pay scales, I couldn’t afford to go back to reservist pay with no guarantee there will be a job left when I go back.

I may consider it if they sort out the money I’m owed due to McCloud and I don’t take a hit as per above.

Til then, will be volunteering locally (Red Cross/Food Bank etc) and ignoring any callup.

As an aside, anyone know why GSR/S10 stocks haven’t been loaned yet to NHS staff? I think mindful how effective these devices are, that the military haven’t had a mass callback of them to give to ICU staff and those directly at risk of infection.

racedo 4th Apr 2020 10:30


Originally Posted by Vortex Hoop (Post 10739180)
Ooh-er, I’m not RAuxAF, but still a bit nervous that the recently retired will be called out. I have another 10 years of call-out liability left after leaving at 16/38 point and my civvie role has just been furloughed. So I may be seen as an idle pair of hands looking for a job...

If you have been furloughed and then get called up as a reserve do you still get "paid" plus allowance for being called up ?

Fortissimo 4th Apr 2020 11:52


Originally Posted by VinRouge (Post 10739223)
...any regular reserve call up letter will be getting a stiff ignoring.

I think you will find that a reserve liability is legally binding on you, so a stiff ignoring is quite likely to be followed by an equally stiff visit from civil, MOD or Service police regarding your desertion.

Reserve Forces Act 1996, section 96: Failure to attend for service on call out or recall.

(1)A member of a reserve force served with a call-out notice under any provision of this Act who, without leave lawfully granted or reasonable excuse—
(a)fails to present himself for service at the time and place specified in the call-out notice under section 32(3)(b), 43(4)(b) or 58(3)(c) (as the case may be);
[…],

is guilty of desertion (if section 8(2)(a) or (b) of the Armed Forces Act 2006 applies to him) or absence without leave (if neither
of those provisions applies to him).]

Because it's not a shooting war, the penalty for desertion is up to 2 years imprisonment. Your call out notice is considered to have been served if delivered to your home address. Good luck with your postie!

VinRouge 4th Apr 2020 14:19


Originally Posted by Fortissimo (Post 10739331)
I think you will find that a reserve liability is legally binding on you, so a stiff ignoring is quite likely to be followed by an equally stiff visit from civil, MOD or Service police regarding your desertion.

Reserve Forces Act 1996, section 96: Failure to attend for service on call out or recall.

(1)A member of a reserve force served with a call-out notice under any provision of this Act who, without leave lawfully granted or reasonable excuse—
(a)fails to present himself for service at the time and place specified in the call-out notice under section 32(3)(b), 43(4)(b) or 58(3)(c) (as the case may be);
[…],

is guilty of desertion (if section 8(2)(a) or (b) of the Armed Forces Act 2006 applies to him) or absence without leave (if neither
of those provisions applies to him).]

Because it's not a shooting war, the penalty for desertion is up to 2 years imprisonment. Your call out notice is considered to have been served if delivered to your home address. Good luck with your postie!

I think they will have a very large number of very militant, unwilling to comply reservists if they try. I always gave 100% in my military career, whilst witnessing a lot of jobsworths unable to do anything with their lives other than drive through the main gate every morning, devoting next to c0ck all to the job or helping anyone around them. Well, if you cant beat them join them. I and many pressed others will be a bigger burden to have around than not. And seeing as I'm not presently receiving my full pension in accordance with the law, they will gets whats they pays for.

StopStart 4th Apr 2020 18:08

They’re not going to call you up, don’t worry. Mobilisations at the moment are voluntary but done under the terms of compulsory mobilisation. If (and it’s an enormous “if”) you were to be called up you’d be remunerated in line with your current earnings.

Plenty of us RAuxAF doing it before they come and drag you away, kicking and screaming. So go back to sipping cocktails in the sunshine ;)


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