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golder 21st Mar 2020 13:03

Just take it easy guys, it's getting crazy out here. Stay safe


pr00ne 21st Mar 2020 15:56

golder,

Thank you!

ORAC 27th Mar 2020 07:56

COVID and the Military
 
Thought I’d make it a generic thread. Bound to be outbreaks across numerous countries and services.

https://eu.guampdn.com/story/news/lo...am/2920776001/

23 positive COVID-19 cases from USS Theodore Roosevelt, patients isolated on Guam

There are at least 23 people from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who tested positive for COVID-19, according to Gov. Lou Leon Guerrero.

The aircraft carrier has docked on Guam and testing is underway for the crew, according to officials. There are more than 5,000 aboard the ship and there are about 800 testing kits available with more on the way, Navy officials said Friday.

On Wednesday, four sailors who tested positive for the coronavirus were medically evacuated from the carrier to Naval Hospital Guam. Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly said at a Pentagon news briefing on Friday that several more cases have been identified.

"There were three initial. There were five more that were being flown off the ship," Modly said. "And then there are several others that are in isolation right now and, as I said, the ship is going to be pulling into Guam and they're going to figure out from there who needs to come off, who can stay on looking at the level of symptoms and things like that."

Leon Guerrero said that the ship docked at the furthest dock from the port, and the USS Roosevelt crew will be restricted to the pier. “Please be assured that we are containing the situation,” Leon Guerrero said. "I am assured by (Joint Region Marianas Commander Rear Admiral John Menoni) that no sailors will be out of the base," she said. "They won't even go to the base. They are just quarantined in the pier area." ......

chopper2004 28th Mar 2020 20:07

Airbus Defence provides A330 MRTT
 
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/pres...t-covid19.html


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NutLoose 29th Mar 2020 00:15

From the Guardian off my phone


Downing Street officials have also said they are prepared to use the RAF to repatriate British nationals stuck overseas if commercial flights cannot be found. “Our priority is commercial flights, but we do not rule out exceptional means if necessary,” said one.

racedo 29th Mar 2020 09:43

Makes more sense to stay where you bloody well are.

Islandlad 29th Mar 2020 09:59


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10731869)
Makes more sense to stay where you bloody well are.

Agree. How much warning did people need before taking their holiday, then wanting help to get back?

just another jocky 29th Mar 2020 10:17


Originally Posted by Islandlad (Post 10731893)
Agree. How much warning did people need before taking their holiday, then wanting help to get back?

100% hindsight is a cheap science.

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Islandlad 29th Mar 2020 10:51


Originally Posted by just another jocky (Post 10731909)
100% hindsight is a cheap science.

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Are you one of the people trying to get back from a 2 week holiday? Started 3 weeks ago. How much warning would you think they needed?
Now calling on vital resources which are needed else where.

hunterboy 29th Mar 2020 11:14

What does it cost to send a C17 or similar out to say Peru to bring back a load of Brits? Does the FCO charge them? Probably cheaper to find an AirBnB for them there and pay the bill for 2 months.

racedo 29th Mar 2020 11:31


Originally Posted by hunterboy (Post 10731966)
What does it cost to send a C17 or similar out to say Peru to bring back a load of Brits? Does the FCO charge them? Probably cheaper to find an AirBnB for them there and pay the bill for 2 months.

There were 2 777-200ER sent from Gatwick to Lima this morning.

Personally would stay where I was, assumming host Govt was happy, find a place and sit it out. WTF would I want to come back and fight them on the beaches, fight them on the streets, fight them in the toilet roll aisles. Might as well die in place on holidays rather than in UK where Drs can't look after you and hospitals are overrun with disease.


Helena Handbasket 29th Mar 2020 13:55


Originally Posted by DODGYOLDFART (Post 10718548)
In November 1957 most of the UK military fell foul of the Asian Flu epidemic. Many RAF stations were forced to close as the Sick Quarters and medics became overwhelmed. I was serving at Church Fenton (not a happy place) on night fighters at the time when the station closed down almost completely for several weeks. I was one of the lucky ones who get sent home fully fit but went down with flu the day before I was due to return and had a further two weeks recuperating.

Anyone still around with memories from those heady days?

I was a spotty 16 year old apprentice at Locking. The powers that be thought the best solution was to put 3 tier bunks in a few wooden billets and see how many people they could jam in. It was the same principle as a leper colony. We must have been pretty resilient. We all survived .

ORAC 29th Mar 2020 17:26

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-nav...virus-positive

More sailors aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt test positive for coronavirus, officials say

More sailors aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier currently in the western Pacific have tested positive for coronavirus and officials fear the number will continue to rise.

There are now 38 Navy sailors who have been infected with COVID-19, U.S. officials told Fox News on Sunday.

Early last week, there were only three known cases aboard the massive warship with a crew of 5,000. It marked the first U.S. naval vessel at sea to have infected people onboard.......

”We expect additional positive tests," Adm. Mike Gilday, chief of naval operations, said in a statement Thursday. Gilday says none of the sailors infected so far are "seriously ill."...... So far, no pilots on the ship have been infected, officials say.......

It's not clear if the virus has spread to any of the destroyer escorts in the group since leaving San Diego in early January. Deploying with the carrier is the guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill and guided-missile destroyers Russell, Paul Hamilton, Pinckney, Kidd and Rafael Peralta. Most of those warships, armed with hundreds of Tomahawk cruise missiles, will remain at sea while the carrier is moored in Guam -- a stop that could be weeks long, officials say......

The Navy's only other carrier in the western Pacific also has cases of the virus onboard, Fox News first reported Friday. The Japan-based USS Ronald Reagan is in port right now, and the two sailors who tested positive are no longer on board, according to officials. The positive cases were discovered Friday and forced the naval base located an hour outside Tokyo to be locked down over the weekend, with thousands of American sailors ordered to remain on the ship for 48-hours.

The virus has also spread to an Air Force base in Okinawa, Japan, with at least three known positive cases reported.

pr00ne 29th Mar 2020 17:50

With nearly every single UK airliner grounded and therefore available, why on earth would the RAF need to carry out repatriation flights?

just another jocky 29th Mar 2020 18:05


Originally Posted by Islandlad (Post 10731941)
Are you one of the people trying to get back from a 2 week holiday? Started 3 weeks ago. How much warning would you think they needed?
Now calling on vital resources which are needed else where.

No, we got back last week.

Why are you acting like such a dick?

Maybe it's not acting. :ok:

just another jocky 29th Mar 2020 18:23


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10731981)
There were 2 777-200ER sent from Gatwick to Lima this morning.

Personally would stay where I was, assumming host Govt was happy, find a place and sit it out. WTF would I want to come back and fight them on the beaches, fight them on the streets, fight them in the toilet roll aisles. Might as well die in place on holidays rather than in UK where Drs can't look after you and hospitals are overrun with disease.

Doesn't that depend on where you are, whether you believe law and order are likely to be maintained, that food and other essential resources will remain available, that you can afford whatever extra it is costing, that hospitals are likely to be able to look after you and that you can ignore the near-overwhelming natural need to be back with your family?

As an aside, if there is one thing that this crisis has polarised, it's the rush to judge.

Islandlad 29th Mar 2020 18:57

Pandemic declared by WHO on 12 March 2020 following major world wide disruption.

29 March UK Govt having to 'rescue' people still on their jollies :rolleyes:

Last 3 days of March significant resources being used and deflected from vital work at home.

It is unlikely we will ever know if there are additional casualties as a result of such selfish actions in the last month :=

racedo 29th Mar 2020 19:48


Originally Posted by just another jocky (Post 10732432)
Doesn't that depend on where you are, whether you believe law and order are likely to be maintained, that food and other essential resources will remain available, that you can afford whatever extra it is costing, that hospitals are likely to be able to look after you and that you can ignore the near-overwhelming natural need to be back with your family?

As an aside, if there is one thing that this crisis has polarised, it's the rush to judge.

IF you are worried about whether law and order can be maintained then you have to wonder why the hell you went on holidays there in the first place.

I believe if forced to stay the Foreign Office should support within reason V putting on aircraft to get people home.

As for hospitals being able to look after you.............. they aren't in the UK at the moment. There is a 1-8 list of who likely to be saved and unhealthy, unfit and obese then chances v someone young, fit and healthy are not good.

Peru <900 cases and 18 deaths, UK 20,000 cases 1300 dead........................


dctyke 30th Mar 2020 05:43

Cranwell in the news

https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/raf-cranwell-disobeying-lockdown!-rules-3997405

just another jocky 30th Mar 2020 07:35

Things have moved on apace, it's easy to forget that a couple of weeks ago we were all congregating, brushing shoulders in supermarkets that had shelves fully stocked etc. So it's a bit out of order to claim that folk who were out of the country (could also be on business or holidays longer than 2 weeks) should have known what was to come. Even governments with their scientific advisors didn't really know that a few weeks ago and if they did, most weren't being fully open about it, so go easy on those poor folk that were away when it started to ramp up. Many may also not have had the financial flexibility to change their travel plans.


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