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treadigraph 10th Mar 2020 14:37


Originally Posted by Not_a_boffin (Post 10708558)
RN School of Flight Deck Ops got four mock-ups a couple of years back.

http://www.naval-technology.com/unca...ining-5856094/

There was a slightly stripped down Merlin outside the hangar, perhaps for a similar purpose?

etudiant 10th Mar 2020 15:31


Originally Posted by golder (Post 10708508)
Only one aircraft doing what it can. Where others had many and even AEW. Does anyone really think the F-35 won't be chosen as the best aircraft, when everything is assessed?

It had 90% availability at red flag
https://www.janes.com/article/94680/...very-milestone

Also 90% on deployment.
https://www.airforcemag.com/deployed...istics-system/
F-35s from Hill’s 4th Fighter Squadron deployed to Al Dhafra Air Base, United Arab Emirates, for six months last year. The jets almost instantly began conducting airstrikes while 70 percent of the fleet was able to conduct its mission, said Brig. Gen. David Abba, director of the Air Force’s F-35 Integration Office. By the end of the deployment, that rate had climbed to more than 90 percent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

The Finnish evaluation is recognized to be thorough and objective.
That is why I thought the inability of the F-35 to complete the presumably demanding flight schedule was noteworthy.

Not_a_boffin 10th Mar 2020 16:35


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10708928)
There was a slightly stripped down Merlin outside the hangar, perhaps for a similar purpose?

One of the pre-production aircraft, it's been at Siskin/SFDO since the 90s. There's a dozen or so old SHAR, plus some Lynx and a Sea King or two lurking in the hangars. Used to be some old Wessex as well back in the day.

Demobbed - Out of Service British Military Aircraft

treadigraph 10th Mar 2020 17:36

Thanks, probably be passing again tomorrow afternoon, will keep a sharper lookout!

Lyneham Lad 18th Mar 2020 16:21

Article on Flight Global:-
F-35 ALIS open deficiencies grow to 4,700 over two years

Intro:-

Lockheed Martin has made several improvements to the F-35’s Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS), but the technology remains plagued by about 4,700 deficiencies.

A new Government Accountability Office (GOA) review of ALIS, the F-35’s ground-based software support system, outlines the scope of problems still affecting the technology, which has long been plagued by issues.

The report says 66% of outstanding deficiencies came to light in the last two years, and 22% are “Category 1’ or “Category 2” problems.

golder 18th Mar 2020 23:56

They fixed that by changing the name, problem solved :ok:
https://www.airforcemag.com/f-35-pro...alis-for-odin/

ORAC 19th Mar 2020 08:44

This USAF pilot is flying the F-35B from USS America ? Alert 5

This USAF pilot is flying the F-35B from USS America


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....acc4f3e4d.jpeg

RAFEngO74to09 20th Mar 2020 16:10

USAF Rapid Unit Dynamic Employment (RUDE)
 
Video from the F-35 Lightning II Joint Project Office on 34th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron.


Asturias56 20th Mar 2020 16:13

"It takes a dedicated team of talented maintainers, pilots and professionals to ready the F-35 for sustained combat operations."

You know when I was at school Career Guidance never told me I could make a living writing stuff like that.................. :(

weemonkey 21st Mar 2020 12:32

What capability?
 
The UK declared the F-35 operational even though the fleet was suffering from availability, infrastructure, logistics and security issues, auditors have revealed.

The UK National Audit Office (NAO) found that the December 2018 initial operating capability (IOC) from land bases was granted with 67 exceptions, with almost one-third of those still yet to be resolved more than a year later.

It is not clear on how many criteria IOC (Land) was judged, but the process is common practice, officials say, noting that waiting for all issues to be fully addressed before declaring the aircraft operational would “needlessly withhold” the capability from the front-line.

My bold.

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/budget-policy-operations/uk-declared-f-35-operational-despite-issues-auditors-say

pr00ne 21st Mar 2020 16:08

weemonkey,

It was the same for the Hunter F1, Phantom FGR2, Tornado GR1, etc etc etc...

weemonkey 21st Mar 2020 22:48

What was the same?


Martin the Martian 21st Mar 2020 22:58


Originally Posted by Not_a_boffin (Post 10709039)
One of the pre-production aircraft, it's been at Siskin/SFDO since the 90s. There's a dozen or so old SHAR, plus some Lynx and a Sea King or two lurking in the hangars. Used to be some old Wessex as well back in the day.

Demobbed - Out of Service British Military Aircraft


SFDO use the first pre-production EH101 and an engineering training mock up airframe that looks convincing from a distance. Sadly the Wessex have long gone, most of them to the fire dump down the road at Predannack.

Digression over, back to pointy whizzy things.

golder 21st Mar 2020 23:16


Originally Posted by weemonkey (Post 10723470)
What was the same?

"The fleet was suffering from availability, infrastructure, logistics and security issues"

pr00ne 22nd Mar 2020 11:59

Got there before me golder, thanks!

weemonkey,

golder has eloquently made my point.

All the aircraft I named suffered from issues around serviceability, availability and capability when first introduced, others, like the Swift F1, never recovered.

weemonkey 22nd Mar 2020 16:22


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10723962)
Got there before me golder, thanks!

weemonkey,

golder has eloquently made my point.

All the aircraft I named suffered from issues around serviceability, availability and capability when first introduced, others, like the Swift F1, never recovered.

Can't comment on the Hunter but I think you're pushing it on the other two, what airframe security issues plagued the GR1 for example?

ORAC 25th Mar 2020 21:06

USMC cutting their F-35 buy by about 120-130 aircraft.

It is being inferred they are binning their entire F-35C buy (which would fit with operating the F-35B from the America class in littoral waters or from onshore).

The question then would be to see if the USN follows suit.

https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2020/0...-of-f-35s.html

https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2020/0...bers-does.html


Asturias56 25th Mar 2020 21:54

They're losing their tanks as well - supposed to make them "more flexible" and not just a look-a-like to the other forces

gums 26th Mar 2020 03:54

Salute!

I don't think the final numbers are in yet, ORAC. That's for the "mix".

As with the F-4 way back and the USMC buying Harriers at the same time, getting to the required/desired mix takes some time. Then we had the Hornet and Super Harrier mix in the 80's. Now we have the Bee and the Cee mix lately.

What the jarheads come up with is gonna be interesting. They moved out ahead of USAF early on, and left our local training base ( Eglin) for S.C. and AZ. Then they actually deployed to west PAC and have been flying there from land and a gator navy boat.

As far as ALIS goes, the system prolly needs more management attention defining the maintenance issues ALIS was intended for than the data-gathering capability it has. It sounded great when briefed ten years ago, but has been a problem compared to the way we did things for the Viper and Hornet and Eagle.

Meanwhile, the Stubbie is doing work in Iceland that has become interesting. The handoffs between the RNAF Stubbies outta Iceland and the RAF folks has been very smooth from what we are seeing.

Gums sends...




jindabyne 26th Mar 2020 18:06

waiting for all issues to be fully addressed before declaring the aircraft operational would “needlessly withhold” the capability

Your 'bold' weemonkey. Nothing untoward in any of this. Security issues are just that - you'll never likely know. As the GR1 desk officer in MoD, I did know those (very few) that were applicable to GR1. After IOC, all were resolved in timely order.


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