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Overall, better that it was put there and not burned in '86.:) However, let us see some common sense if there are no serious preservation offers. It would seem reasonable for the forward fuselage to be carefully preserved for Cosford, it could make a great "walk-through" exhibit. There might possibly be offers for main components like U/C and the airbrake assy for other display purposes. Sounds like the fin (and the stab?) have a future at Marham. Cheers
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It would seem reasonable for the forward fuselage to be carefully preserved for Cosford, it could make a great "walk-through" exhibit. Hoping for a good outcome from somebody; and buying a ticket for Friday's lottery |
I have a recollection of what is presumably now the RAF Museum's Valiant being visible close to the Downham Market/Swaffham Road first time I went past about 40 years ago. |
At least they are a lot safer these days, I remember in the 70's when all the gate guardians had to be checked for live seats after an aircraft on a gate in the USA was being moved to be refurbished and the seat went off killing the poor sod on brakes..
The UK wasn't much better, remember the 22,000lb Grand Slam on the gate at Scampton that was being removed and was found to be live and full of explosive when they couldn't lift it. :E |
Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 10680900)
I also gather from further up this thread that the cockpit has been stripped, reducing its visitor value.
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I have plenty of room in my garden but not sure the wife would want a bomber covering her vegetables !!
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Yes it is - or at least it was just before Christmas. Not as well lit as your photo. In fact that whole side of the museum seemed to be very dark (including the area the Vulcan is in). Perhaps I wasn't moving fast enough to trigger the light sensors.....!
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Scampton Grand Slam
Some years ago (quite a lot in fact) I was on a course with a chap who'd been a junior EO at Scampton in the 50s. He told me that the Grand Slam which became the gate-guardian had been buried on the airfield and that they were simply given the map reference of its grave and told to dig it up. Was it really full of Torpex or whatever, or was it just a full-weight training dummy?
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Originally Posted by Mil-26Man
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Silly question I'm sure, but beyond the occasional lick of paint what maintenance does a gate guardian actually need?
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Originally Posted by Easy Street
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Okay then: “People, ideas, machines - in that order.” That’s from John Boyd, who is not often noted as having offered worthless platitudes. But the message is the same.
Meanwhile all the air marshals’ grand plans for growing the RAF truly are worthless unless more people can be trained and retained, as no less a figure than the Secretary of State has recognised. Fixing leaking roofs and unreliable heating and hot water systems in on-base accommodation is rightly being seen as a part of that effort. Oh I agree totally about ^^^^^ but the "failure" if you want to call it that, is spending billions on cutting edge aircraft and technical facilities then sending your highly trained techs to the block with a roll of cling film for the windows to stop the fen winds (or north sea draughts in my Anstruther quarter) blasting straight through taking the heat with them.. |
I think it is a shame to remove it. Is the tornado still there?
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I think it is a shame to remove it. Is the tornado still there? |
Aaaah, some of my happiest days at Marham were spent...on detachment in Iraq. No pub, no pool and no decent chinese takeaway.
Walking past the Victor every day was nice though. Shame it has to go. |
Originally Posted by binbrook
(Post 10681033)
Some years ago (quite a lot in fact) I was on a course with a chap who'd been a junior EO at Scampton in the 50s. He told me that the Grand Slam which became the gate-guardian had been buried on the airfield and that they were simply given the map reference of its grave and told to dig it up. Was it really full of Torpex or whatever, or was it just a full-weight training dummy?
https://www.raafansw.org.au/docPDF/G...ews_151106.pdf Errr the blast radius is a bit far fetched |
Is there a formula for calculating?
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Scampton did not have a Lancaster Gate Guard in 1958
it now has a Hawk The Red Arrows jet is the third gate guardian during the airfield’s long history. The first was an Avro Lancaster, known as S-Sugar, which was in place between 1960 and 1970, before being relocated to RAF Museum Hendon. Another Lancaster, Just Jane, became the gate guardian in 1973, spending 10 years at the entrance to RAF Scampton. |
Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
(Post 10680916)
Yes that was XD 818 which was on display outside ops for many years, in camouflage guise (now back to anti-flash white at Cosford). Didn't know it was visible from the road but it it must have been, as it was the only Valiant at Marham after 1964-5
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
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Is there a formula for calculating?
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I blame Brexit
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