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A_Van 8th Jan 2020 11:40

Looks like Iran decided to implement a compromised solution. On one hand, they were afraid of making POTUS (or, more generally, Uncle Sam "on the whole") too angry and therefore fired missiles into the sand. On the other hand, after all those cries from their mullahs and top military, they had to shoot at the US troops in one way or another, otherwise they would look weak. And they did fire, and some missiles even hit the territory of a US base.
Let's hope that US would not escalate on the military front. No doubt that economically they are preparing a mortal coil, but that's another story.

SASless 8th Jan 2020 11:51

Or......they were tracking them and knew they would miss and thus no action required.


ericsson16 8th Jan 2020 12:43

Operation Mincemeat
 
Genral Qassim Soleimani=Operation Mincemeat.

jolihokistix 8th Jan 2020 12:45

Most international contingents have reported results openly.
Why the long blanket of silence from the U.S. side?

SASless 8th Jan 2020 13:22

Perhaps you are not watching American Television very much.

President Trump will address the Nation at 11 AM (East Coast Time).

Auxtank 8th Jan 2020 13:32

Pentagon official line is "Iran missiles were aiming to miss..."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...q-latest-news/

SASless 8th Jan 2020 13:56

US Intelligence agencies had advance warning of the Iranian Missile attack it appears.

Reports suggest intercepts of "chatter" inside Iraq and Iran gave notice of the coming attack.

That comes as no great surprise considering today's technology and capabilities it provides in certain forms of intel gathering.

Also....no doubt there are Humint Sources available to the various Western Powers that could also be providing useful information.

I wonder if they are reading the posts here at pprune.....to see what the strategic experts among us are saying?

just another jocky 8th Jan 2020 13:58

BBC reports:

Three missiles hit north-west of Irbil - Iraqi TV

Two Iranian missiles landed in the village of Sidan, in Irbil province, and a third hit the Bardah Rashsh district in neighbouring Dohuk province, Iraqi state TV reported.

Sidan is about 16km (10 miles) north-west of the city of Irbil, while Bardah Rashsh is 47km (29 miles) to the north-west.

Iraq's military said five missiles were fired towards the Irbil base, where US-led coalition forces are deployed

If Irbil was the airfield targetted, how come the missiles missed by 10 and 29 miles? That would explain why they weren't intercepted. It will be interesting to see the impact points at Al-Asad and may give a better clue as to Iranian capability/intel/intent.



RAFEngO74to09 8th Jan 2020 14:56

President Trump address on the hour

John4321 8th Jan 2020 15:29


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10656324)
Why are civilian aircraft with pax on board still flying along the Iran-Iraq border ? Even for airlines based in countries that have good relations with Iran (e.g. Qatar Airways) I would have thought that pilots as well as airline management would want to keep their aircraft well away from any area with heavy duty missile activity

Money. They won’t fly around until told that they cannot take the shorter route.

RAFEngO74to09 8th Jan 2020 15:30

POTUS Statement:

Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon while he is President.
No Americans were harmed - no Iraquis killed.
Only minimal damage sustained at bases.
Iran appears to be standing down.
Early warning system worked.

RAFEngO74to09 8th Jan 2020 15:46

POTUS Statement in full:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti_dZLZpTXg#t=35m38s

bobward 8th Jan 2020 16:45

The US obviously had good intel to kill the General in the first place. No, I don't want anyone to break OpSec to speculate.
The question on my mind is: who benefits from his demise? The US of course, but what about within Iran.
Will someone there gain from such a 'popular' soldiers death, which they can conveniently blame on 'the great Satan?'

Sorry just been reading Tom Clancy again...…..

MPN11 8th Jan 2020 17:14

I’m just grateful that, reading between the lines, the score is deemed by Iran to be 1-1. Let us ALL hope that they leave this particular scenario as closed.

Nothing, of course, will stop Iran’s Shi’te/Sunni conflict.

OldnGrounded 8th Jan 2020 17:18


Originally Posted by bobward (Post 10657101)
The question on my mind is: who benefits from his demise? The US of course . . .

I don't think the US benefits in any material way. Soleimani will be replaced by someone with the same goals and intentions and leading the same forces with the same resources. Trump may benefit from approval of the move by his supporters, unless the widespread disapproval outweighs that.


. . . but what about within Iran.
Will someone there gain from such a 'popular' soldiers death, which they can conveniently blame on 'the great Satan?'
Of course. The leadership is already benefiting because this situation has diverted the masses from recent protests against the government. Soleimani, however, was a close associate of the "Supreme Leader," so it's pretty unlikely that the Iranians would have chosen this move if they were seeking a false flag option.

OldnGrounded 8th Jan 2020 17:22


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 10657132)
I’m just grateful that, reading between the lines, the score is deemed by Iran to be 1-1. Let us ALL hope that they leave this particular scenario as closed.

Yes. Here's fervently hoping. No one should imagine that a full-scale war with Iran and the US as principals would be anything less than a disaster for all concerned and the region in general -- at least.


Nothing, of course, will stop Iran’s Shi’te/Sunni conflict.
Or Saudi's, or Iraq's, or [insert favorite location where both sects live].

Interflug 8th Jan 2020 17:30


Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09 (Post 10657049)
POTUS Statement:

Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon while he is President.
...

He should be cautious. JFK said the same to Israel and lived not even a year longer.

Auxtank 8th Jan 2020 17:35


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 10657132)
I’m just grateful that, reading between the lines, the score is deemed by Iran to be 1-1. Let us ALL hope that they leave this particular scenario as closed.

Yes, I got that impression too.
We can but hope.

SASless 8th Jan 2020 17:49

When you see your predecessor turned into mince meat....it would tend to focus your mind upon the idea that following his lead might also lead to your own first hand experience with the full power of a Super Power wanting you to leave office with no notice as well.

onload 8th Jan 2020 18:26


Originally Posted by bobward (Post 10657101)
The question on my mind is: who benefits from his demise? The US of course, but what about within Iran.

The US is just about to be kicked out of Iraq, many trillion $ down the drain since 2003 for nothing! Leaving the field to the Iranians, the Russians and possibly ISIS. All the anti-iranian protests in Iraq - gone. The anti-government protests in Iran - gone. Iran rebooting their nuclear program. What a waste of money + time... What good intel? Successor to the general named, won't change a thing.


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