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Lyneham Lad 16th Aug 2019 17:34

A French Chateau Hoarding the World’s Largest Private Collection of Fighter Jets
 
Just came across this article + pictures. Something to challenge spotters?

On MessyNessyChic.com website.

At no other chateau in all of France will you find a Soviet helicopter parked on the back lawn. Or a 1970s hovercraft. Or a record-breaking collection of World War II fighter jets for that matter. Not to mention a warehouse full of vintage firetrucks, 200 antiques motorbikes, 36 racing cars – and the list goes on – all sitting comfortably in retirement amongst the vineyards of Burgundy.

pasta 16th Aug 2019 18:08


record-breaking collection of World War II fighter jets
I'm not saying it doesn't have a record-breaking collection of World War II fighter jets, but it can't be very large!

Edit: For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting the OP's endorsement of the above wording!

c52 16th Aug 2019 18:20

There appear to be 72 in the picture - I can believe that's a record-holding collection.

MPN11 16th Aug 2019 18:25

Mon Dieu!

I Spy ... 3 Meteors. Here endeth the WW2 collection, je pense!

ex-fast-jets 16th Aug 2019 19:25

Pas de Noblesse
 
The Duc or Marquis or Baron or whatever he or she is has no taste....................

A Lightning and several other runway-bound jets, but not a Harrier to be seen.

Clearly someone who does not understand what is important in life.

Blossy 16th Aug 2019 20:43

That looks like a nice place to visit on a fine day and I reckon the wine will be agreeable!

aerolearner 16th Aug 2019 21:37

Been there, great place to see many interesting aircraft within touching distance. It was a fine April day, not a soul around.
The only negative comment is that some of the exhibits look somewhat derelict, but it is fully understandable as this is a private collection without a proper museum institution.

On Glide 16th Aug 2019 22:17

It’s well worth a visit, not just for the vintage jets but also the massive motorcycle and Abarth vehicle collections. The local wine’s not bad either!

tartare 16th Aug 2019 23:10

Wow that is impressive - I had a look on his website but couldn't see a list of the full collection.
I assume from the commentary above that the nuclear armed jet is a Mirage 4?
Even an F-16 there.
Wonder how much that cost him - and how he got export permission - quite a feat.

India Four Two 17th Aug 2019 06:32


the nuclear armed jet is a Mirage 4?
I think I can see two.

Tashengurt 17th Aug 2019 09:21

I counted two Mirage V's too. Big beasts aren't they?
Is that a Jag in the blue and white scheme on the grass?

Union Jack 17th Aug 2019 09:44


Originally Posted by Blossy (Post 10547095)
That looks like a nice place to visit on a fine day and I reckon the wine will be agreeable!

Well worth a visit indeed and the Hôtel-Restaurant L'Ouvrée just down the road is an inexpensive but very pleasant family favourite for breaking the journey from the Channel to the south of France and the Costa Brava. Aloxe-Corton and Pommard very close too and, if you want a real treat, Olivier Leflaive is not far away at Puligny-Montrachet.

Jack

ShyTorque 17th Aug 2019 10:09


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10547318)
I think I can see two.

The second one might just be a mirage....
:E

MPN11 17th Aug 2019 10:34


Originally Posted by Tashengurt (Post 10547418)
...
Is that a Jag in the blue and white scheme on the grass?

Nose looks a bit long, even for a T-bird. But I agree there are some similarities in the planform. Pixellation of the image presents further analysis! :)

dook 17th Aug 2019 10:40

That Jaguar......isn't.

MPN11 17th Aug 2019 10:46


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10547474)
That Jaguar......isn't.

So it's a <insert type here> ? ;)


this image made me re-think, TBH.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEPECA..._Lofting-1.jpg

treadigraph 17th Aug 2019 10:49

Just a Jag but mounted a bit nose up...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ab480ee59a.jpg

MPN11 17th Aug 2019 13:27

Clarity! Thanks for that! ^

Minnie Burner 17th Aug 2019 15:19

Lightning is F1a XM178
 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...%C3%A8s-Beaune


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....51970d3884.jpg

But still no Harrier for Bonker.........

Icare9 17th Aug 2019 20:53

On Google Maps you can zoom in, I count 72 in the main park, plus 3 on the frontage as well as the hovercraft.
On Google Maps, that doesn't look to be a 3rd Meteor, and the jet at the far end past the Mirage V seems to have gone.
An astounding collection, plus motorcycles and fast cars....
Now wondering how to visit when we travel down to/from Spain.

Lima Juliet 17th Aug 2019 23:17


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10547483)
Just a Jag but mounted a bit nose up...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ab480ee59a.jpg

Looks like max AOA for a Jag...:E

ehwatezedoing 18th Aug 2019 08:29

I believe this aircraft collection to be up for sale.

If any one of you is interested :p

Pegasus107 18th Aug 2019 16:01

Visited there a couple of years ago, and was a great day out. A broad collection of memorabilia, from aircraft to any thing car related.

a cracking area, wine and food isn’t bad either 👍👍

IFPS man 18th Aug 2019 22:08

At Savigny les Beaune, just off the A6, near Beaune. And their chateau wines are delicious...

dead_pan 19th Aug 2019 01:51

With all that money one would have thought the owner could have hangared them. They're just going to slowly rot outside which will be a crying shame

Vendee 19th Aug 2019 07:12


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 10548790)
With all that money one would have thought the owner could have hangared them. They're just going to slowly rot outside which will be a crying shame

We are talking 3 or 4 large hangars. They won't get planning permission for that in the grounds of an historic chateau.

Duchess_Driver 19th Aug 2019 11:49

On the imagery I am checking there are actually 3 single seat Jags - the one at the back in the blue and white scheme and two in the main park in “operational” schemes.

Demobbed (no “last updated date”) suggests these here are not ex RAF.... it also confirms at one stage three meteors - one NF11 and 2 TT20s.

The lightning, as already indicated is XM178 and the only other U.K. “bird” is a Harvard IIa ex EX580.

skua 19th Aug 2019 12:57

The owner is doing a noble job for husbands around the world. Next time your wife tells you are a hoarder (or worse, chucks some of your vital memorabilia out), just show her this man's collection!

Wander00 19th Aug 2019 15:57

Skua, now there's a thought, when SWMBO returns from UK tomorrow. I'll tell you how long the bruises take to heal.....

dead_pan 20th Aug 2019 17:57


We are talking 3 or 4 large hangars. They won't get planning permission for that in the grounds of an historic chateau.
No reason they should be kept in the grounds of the chateau.

Blossy 20th Aug 2019 21:59


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 10550043)
No reason they should be kept in the grounds of the chateau.

Depending on one's finances and preferences....

Asturias56 21st Aug 2019 08:33

Maybe PPrune could organise a crowd-funded buy out?

Of the Chateau I mean - not all that old aluminium................... ;)

[email protected] 21st Aug 2019 09:47

Nice to see he has got a Wessex in there as well.

Thud_and_Blunder 21st Aug 2019 13:00


Nice to see he has got a Wessex in there as well.
Did you perchance mean the H34? Looks like one that the Armee de l'Aire operated in the late 50s and 60s.

[email protected] 21st Aug 2019 14:47

You might be right T and B - it's not obvious from the photo, it's just Wessex shaped but you can't see the nose.


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