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charliegolf 4th Aug 2019 15:32


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer (Post 10536461)
It would appear then, that QR 206 is in error since it fails to mention in Para b the badge for Air Quartermater (QM).

There must surely be a few LMs, AEs and Es still serving too; and my understanding is that they are still entitled to wear the 'original' badge if they choose to?

CG

edit... Ah Golf, still not reading the whole thread eh?

charliegolf 4th Aug 2019 15:43


Originally Posted by Timelord (Post 10536267)
Do you not think that the uniform symbolises something important, and that it should be accorded respect? A squadron standard or regimental colour is just “a bit of embroidery “ but is accorded such reverence that even the Monarch bows to it.


Never seen her bow to a badge though. And isn't any bow she gives to a colour a simple acknowledgement?

CG

Corporal Clott 4th Aug 2019 15:57


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer (Post 10536461)
It would appear then, that QR 206 is in error since it fails to mention in Para b the badge for Air Quartermater (QM).

As is the Remotely Piloted Air System (Pilot) RPAS(P) Flying Badge that was dropped on 1 Apr 19. However, there has been a whole bunch of errors with respect Flying Badges if you read Wg Cdr (Rtd) ‘Jeff’ Jefford’s excellent book on the subject of Observers and Navigators. However, it was never “The RAF Flying Badge” as BEagle has insisted, which was my point.


ShotOne 4th Aug 2019 16:39

Surely flying passengers with no pilots licence (Mr Tierney) is very considerably more serious than wearing an inappropriate jacket. Conflating the two shows a major loss of perspective?

Brian W May 4th Aug 2019 19:34

Best flying jacket I got was from European Air Transport (DHL), made in Paris, black leather with a zipped in quilted liner for cold weather and sporting a fur collar.

Luxury. When I think of my old RAF Aircrew Clothing (prior to such innovations as GoreTex), it wicked more liquid than Pampers do . . .

That jacket looks like something you'd buy in Miller Brothers . . .

orca 4th Aug 2019 20:08

Is there a useful comparator here in rugby shirts? Do the fifteen (or so) chaps who trot out at Twickenham take umbrage at the thousands of folk wearing ‘their’ strip when only they have ‘earned it’.

Meester proach 5th Aug 2019 02:55

I understand the umbrage. Aren’t these lot the ones that come up with hideous flying Scotsman clocks etc.

But aviation has always attracted Walts. The funniest I’ve encountered in the last few years was a passenger who said he brought a 737 for fun flying .....that’s an oxymoron surely.

However if anyone’s got a typhoon hat I’ll have it as that thing rocks...

Lima Juliet 5th Aug 2019 18:14


Originally Posted by Meester proach (Post 10536871)
I understand the umbrage. Aren’t these lot the ones that come up with hideous flying Scotsman clocks etc.

But aviation has always attracted Walts. The funniest I’ve encountered in the last few years was a passenger who said he brought a 737 for fun flying .....that’s an oxymoron surely.

However if anyone’s got a typhoon hat I’ll have it as that thing rocks...

Oh yes, proper sh!te...the nose wheel on the Lancaster is just the start!

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....03affea53.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9b5ea6998.jpeg


A snip at £149.95. https://www.bradford.co.uk/dambusterssculptclock.html


Tashengurt 5th Aug 2019 18:37

Isn't that Kilroy- Silk standing by the Lancaster?

Blossy 5th Aug 2019 19:16

Must be quite a squeeze when all 7 crew are onboard!

Pontius Navigator 5th Aug 2019 19:37

It also depends how it is worn. As TTN said, some are clearly Walts. Some re-reactors are both realistic and credible, other ludicrous. I saw a MRAF in the wrong jacket and modern rank ribbon.

As Tartare said, he wears a selection of badges in the wrong place.

The problem arises when one is credible and in the right place. When you talk to them though you soon find they are fake.

NutLoose 6th Aug 2019 09:17


Originally Posted by Blossy (Post 10537535)
Must be quite a squeeze when all 7 crew are onboard!

No mid upper turret, after all it is a Dambuster aircraft, at least they got that fact right, Airfix didn't, they issued the Dambuster kit with an upper turret then had to send out turretless fuselages to buyers ;)


Notice the PC dog, no longer a......
https://s7g8.scene7.com/is/image/Bra...pjpeg&qlt=85,0

pettinger93 6th Aug 2019 09:37

The outrage about wrongly worn badges also extends to submariners in the Royal Navy. The 'dolphin' badge awarded to those who have qualified as such is highly regarded in the RN, as its a long and arduous process to earn one. Some, though not all, get quite upset when its worn as by those not entitled, even as jewellery. However, I am told that, in real life, the RN does sell extra ones to any submariner, and many of which end up being worn by wives and girlfriends, as they are quite decorative. I seem to remember the Duchess of Cambridge has been seen wearing one.

622 6th Aug 2019 09:55

Ref the dog, I think the 'non pc' hound is on the other side of the hangar doors! ;)

Wwyvern 6th Aug 2019 10:11

Corporal Clott, I fear you are wrong. The stamp in my first Royal Air Force Pilots Flying Log Book is, "THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT W.W.YVERN IS QUALIFIED TO WEAR THE ROYAL AIR FORCE FLYING BADGE w.e.f. 14th DECEMBER 1959". Yes, it was in capitals.

Tankertrashnav 6th Aug 2019 11:07

Mine says "...has qualified as a navigator...". No mention of a flying badge (1970). Nicely handwritten in script, I think the wording must have been a local choice.

Dan Gerous 6th Aug 2019 11:09

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....03affea53.jpeg

Ah, but the marketing strategy behind this is, it is so bad, it's good.:eek:

diginagain 6th Aug 2019 11:28


Originally Posted by Dan Gerous (Post 10538050)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....03affea53.jpeg

Ah, but the marketing strategy behind this is, it is so bad, it's good.:eek:

Is that a Facsimile of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch hanging beneath?

The Oberon 6th Aug 2019 13:06

At the end of the day, I would pay a bit more money and buy an A2.

Pontius Navigator 6th Aug 2019 13:10


Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav (Post 10538047)
Mine says "...has qualified as a navigator...". No mention of a flying badge (1970). Nicely handwritten in script, I think the wording must have been a local choice.

Same here 7 years earlier; would not call it 'nicely'.


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