I was quite surprised that Red 3 this season is a pilot with TUI flying B737 out of Cardiff. 😜 |
Saw them last year at Sunderland and I havd to say that after a lacklustre airshow with many aircraft way out to sea the reds display was excellent.
Watching them come in head first, rolling around each other for the Tornado was an amazing sight. I do though, suspect their future is entirely determined by the life of their Hawks. |
Originally Posted by DON T
(Post 10544267)
I was quite surprised that Red 3 this season is a pilot with TUI flying B737 out of Cardiff. 😜 |
Originally Posted by Avtur
(Post 10544023)
Saw the Red Arrows in Halifax, NS on Sunday at the start of their North American tour. Not the full display, presumably due to the location, but nice to see them nevertheless. Was bemused however by the "support" peeps trying to market RAF engineering (and some bird marketing Wales). Not sure of the purpose behind that. Anyway, I hope they manage to drum up some post Brexit business, and have a safe and successful tour. The cynic in me did wonder how much this tour is costing the UK tax payer, and whether they will get a good return for their "investment", particularly as funding for the front line continues to be limited.
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Originally Posted by lightbluefootprint
(Post 10545752)
One of the Reds objectives is to promote British industry, so it's probably part of their annual budget from Whitehall as they do take occasional tours in an easterly direction too.
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Originally Posted by Roland Pulfrew
(Post 10545936)
Next year should see a 'minor' tour if the pattern follows tradition.
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Originally Posted by jumpseater
(Post 10546003)
Greece next year then.... |
Greece next year then.... Well I laughed! |
Greece next year then.... |
They are still great but I’d probably replace them with a typhoon 3 ship....so as a potential recruitment tool, you are actually looking at what you are aspire too. Would that be cheaper or have I just spent even more ? |
...and here we go again with the "Reds to be scrapped" rumours. Isn't it a cyclical story, popping up every 5 years or so?
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/uk-...Bwr9QT4Warcsn8 |
Originally Posted by typerated
(Post 10522556)
Yes, it is a disgrace when people die on ops for lack of good kit and we fund this
FB |
For the miserable lot who think the Reds are a waste of time, I hope this picture changes your mind.
If they can inspire the next generation, they've served their purpose. This young lad had his childhood made. Feet together, Red 9... ;) https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...ncopyright.jpg |
And in that article it also mentioned the RAF Regt might be for the chop.....and
..."The Paras and Marines could be combined into one unit"..... :ooh: That's like asking the catholic and protestant churches to merge into one! |
Just junk one of them - keep the RM for choice - they are the senior regiment
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Originally Posted by BVRAAM
(Post 10630965)
For the miserable lot who think the Reds are a waste of time, I hope this picture changes your mind.
If they can inspire the next generation, they've served their purpose. This young lad had his childhood made. Feet together, Red 9... ;) https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...ncopyright.jpg |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 10631010)
Inspiring. But time is not the point being raised, money is.
If something generates vastly more resources than it uses, wouldn't you say that's a sensible investment? |
Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
(Post 10630961)
None of these things have bearing on lack of kit, the people responsible for making decent kit provision an uphill battle are the treasury. Soldiers, Airmen and Matlos have died in no end of conflicts since well outside of living memory. I think the only time when the finer aspects of military life were suspended was during World War 2, but then nothing at all could be spared. Unless you were assigned to something like the War Office or Air Ministry film crew.
FB Not letting you get away with that! Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns were funded from Government Reserve plus a plethora of Urgent Operational Requirements that also did not come out of the MoD budget, so any kit issues around body armour, protected vehicles etc are down to the military not thinking they were required or needed or making them available where they were needed and they already existed. |
Originally Posted by BVRAAM
(Post 10631020)
If something generates vastly more resources than it uses, wouldn't you say that's a sensible investment?
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 10631034)
[B]
Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns were funded from Government Reserve plus a plethora of Urgent Operational Requirements that also did not come out of the MoD budget, To take one example, at the time Herrick kicked off, the Infantry's flagship programme was costed at over £4Bn and approval granted 2 years previously to proceed. The primary aim was to reduce casualties, in a 3-phase programme ending in 2015. In short order, the budget was chopped to around £700M, and the programme extended and diluted to such a degree it is now unrecognisable. If you don't ask, you don't get. Far far worse, in the Treasury's eyes, is asking, getting, and then saying you don't want it after spending pots of money. For example, Snatch replacement, cancelled in around 2003 despite the Army having made an exemplary case in the mid-90s that it was FAU and had to be replaced. Same with Nimrod MR2 secure comms. All kit bought and on the shelf, and some genius says we don't want it, and the brand new kit scrapped. That was only about £100M at today's prices, but it all adds up to astronomical waste and missed opportunities. To compensate for the lost funding, we see regular rumours like the Red Arrows being chopped. Better that the Services do the job properly in the first place. (None of what I've said had anything remotely to do with procurers). |
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