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Red 2 and his right glove...
Any thoughts? Keep it clean...! https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c77f5f9a88.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a52771f673.jpg |
1/ Touchscreen GPS moving map ?
2/ Picking your nose on boring transit between displays ? |
Those defence cuts are really biting now . |
Touch screen - we’re still waiting for gloves that work with touchscreens (or the ability to use some special paint in stuff). |
Touch screen
LJ I hear what you’re saying but my jazzy white, RAF flying gloves work just fine with my iPhone. I haven't flown a Hawk T1 for a few years. Does the Skymap GPS have touch screen? I can’t remember. BV |
Red 2 an American Exchange pilot by chance?
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Those gloves are worn when flying down the Mach Loop....
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Rod Leigh, of blessed memory, always called them 'Saturday night' gloves.
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Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
(Post 10522236)
Touch screen - we’re still waiting for gloves that work with touchscreens (or the ability to use some special paint in stuff). |
USN gloves are clearly no better
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The old white flying gloves were pretty robust, as I recall.
Except for the time that some procurement idiot thought that the leather of 'Cape Leather' gloves came from nasty apartheid Seth Efrikan Cape of Good Hope animals. Or perhaps from bits snipped off prisoners in Robben Island jails by those nice BOSS people. That would never do - HM's procurement buying stuff from that regime...:rolleyes: So instead we started getting pale grey gloves made from who knows what. Etruscan goat scrotums or something - they didn't last 5 minutes before ripping. Fortunately sanity soon prevailed and we went back to the original supplier! |
Keep it clean? That's why he's got that finger free.
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Perhaps for the benefit of 777fly?
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I used the USAF version of the aforementioned ‘iPad able’ flight gloves. They were OK but I found them a little cumbersome. A good number of my USAF colleagues snip the fingers off their flying gloves in order to allow easier manipulation of the EFB devices. |
I thought special paint for finger application was trialled 2 years ago, and Commodities were on the cusp of procuring new gloves with touchscreen compatible finger tips in the same period.
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Beagle's glove memories were preceded by a similar 'bean counter's' cost-saving with the introduction of the first aircrew shirts - made by Van Heusen and excellent quality. Said B-C cast around for a cheaper alternative and the contract went to Faulats of Belfast **who they?). Their product lasted until first wash - shrinkage rate was horrendous. Ultimate nonsense was one of my replacements which had been made up from two different cloths and generated differential shrinkage rates!:{ I suspect that the originating genius woulkd have received his 'O' , or better!:ugh:
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The soft blue aircrew shirts were really excellent. Then came those vile olive green roll-neck things, which shrunk like crazy and were very uncomfortable.
No wonder that most squadrons later adopted their own cotton squadron T-shirts. Smart and comfortable! |
Originally Posted by Cornish Jack
(Post 10523469)
Beagle's glove memories were preceded by a similar 'bean counter's' cost-saving with the introduction of the first aircrew shirts - made by Van Heusen and excellent quality. Said B-C cast around for a cheaper alternative and the contract went to Faulats of Belfast **who they?). Their product lasted until first wash - shrinkage rate was horrendous. Ultimate nonsense was one of my replacements which had been made up from two different cloths and generated differential shrinkage rates!:{ I suspect that the originating genius woulkd have received his 'O' , or better!:ugh:
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Crewroom gossip used to tell of a time long ago at Ballykelly (?) before the troubles in NI, and the liaison between Shackleton crews and the ladies who made shirts for the RAF in the factory just down the road. The RAF chaps had a competition at the local dance hall to dance with ladies who made different parts of the shirt - once they had danced with the makers of the components of a full garment then the cry of "shirt" would be heard from the dance floor. However, there were also female shouts of "crew" as the competition worked both ways.
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Originally Posted by Percy Cute
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The USN harness uses Koch Fittings that would be very hard indeed to release with fully gloved hands. |
Originally Posted by Wensleydale
(Post 10523801)
Crewroom gossip used to tell of a time long ago at Ballykelly (?) before the troubles in NI, and the liaison between Shackleton crews and the ladies who made shirts for the RAF in the factory just down the road. The RAF chaps had a competition at the local dance hall to dance with ladies who made different parts of the shirt - once they had danced with the makers of the components of a full garment then the cry of "shirt" would be heard from the dance floor. However, there were also female shouts of "crew" as the competition worked both ways.
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If he's under 30 he's probably texting as he flies :) :D
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orca wrote:
The USN harness uses Koch Fittings that would be very hard indeed to release with fully gloved hands. |
Which is why we practised releasing the Koch fasteners both when being dragged across the grass at AMTC North Luffenham and in the oggin at SCSR Mountbatten during pre-OCU courses. Our fasteners also had a pin to be released before the finger-biting Koch fasteners could be opened. |
Seem to remember an A-10 Pilot drowned in the N Sea in very strong winds as he couldn`t undo the fasteners ,and his parachute didn`t have `spillage pockets` to collapse it....
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Originally Posted by sycamore
(Post 10533938)
Seem to remember an A-10 Pilot drowned in the N Sea in very strong winds as he couldn`t undo the fasteners ,and his parachute didn`t have `spillage pockets` to collapse it....
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In my microlighting days, the radio and nav switches all seemed to be teeny weeny. Normal flying gloves didn't permit accurate selection, and I used cyclists' fingerless gloves. Naked fingers could feel and operate the switches satisfactorily and the material of the gloves at the palm enabled good grip of the control stick and throttle.
I first saw the use of these gloves about 30 years ago by an Indonesian pilot of a Bell 214 with miniaturised radios etc. |
Originally Posted by Dominator2
(Post 10533935)
Don't forget that some of us wore Immersion Gloves as well. Difficult to release Koch fasteners but would be near impossible to operate touch screens or computer pads. What do RAF fast jet pilots wear when flying over very cold oceans these days?
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Originally Posted by charliegolf
(Post 10534002)
IIRC, it clamed the winchman's life too.
CG https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightP...20-%203622.PDF A terrible report to read. lsh |
IIRC as a direct result of this tragedy, J knives were added to SAR winchmen’s items of equipment |
LSH: noted.
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At least with the correct finger exposed, the pilot can give the enthusiastic 'Salute' to that sad team of spotters as he flies inverted through Cad in the loop... |
What can be done. Demonstrates why SpaceX build almost all their rockets and other equipment in house. Large multi-screen touch displays, iPad remote back-up. Look at the smooth wall panels compared to the earlier Apollo/Soyuz capsules. https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-cre...uit-rehearsal/ On Thursday, an official NASA Astronaut account tweeted that SpaceX’s first two Commercial Crew astronauts had recently completed a dress rehearsal test of the spacesuits that they will wear during Crew Dragon’s inaugural crewed launch to the ISS. Bob Behnken and Doug Hurley participated in a full “suit-up & leak checks” rehearsal with their iconic SpaceX-built suits and the same Ground Support Equipment (GSE) hardware that will be used during Demo-2. This dress rehearsal also serves to familiarize the SpaceX and NASA ground support crew with the astronaut suit-up process, and multiple technicians and flight engineers are visible in the background. The new spacesuits made their press debut last summer at a media event held at SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, California. Not only are they uniquely beautiful and modernist, but SpaceX’s spacesuits are also designed first and foremost with functionality in mind. SpaceX hired its own team of seamstresses and focused heavily on integrating 3D printing into suit production, resulting in an end-product that is simultaneously strikingly minimalistic and extremely usable. For example, the helmets Behnken and Hurley are seen wearing use 3D printing to integrate extremely complex life support systems, a built-in microphone and speaker communications array, a seamless multi-hinged visor, and more. The suits are also designed to allow for easy maneuverability and a seamless user experience within the Dragon capsule. The attached gloves of the suit use conductive leather to allow the astronauts to interact with the Crew Dragon’s primary controls, a set of large touchscreens. Apple iPads will additionally be mounted directly on the thighs of the astronauts to serve as an even more convenient (and redundant) method of interfacing with Dragon’s controls, among other things........ https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e82caa755.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0f9cd43ea.jpeg |
And they have a an ex-RAF squipper in the team. Go Space-X! |
Originally Posted by Stitchbitch
(Post 10542687)
And they have a an ex-RAF squipper in the team. Go Space-X! |
Originally Posted by reds & greens
(Post 10535097)
At least with the correct finger exposed, the pilot can give the enthusiastic 'Salute' to that sad team of spotters as he flies inverted through Cad in the loop... |
Originally Posted by mopardave
(Post 10542798)
"sad team of spotters"....what an arrogant remark.....I'm embarrassed for you!
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