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WingsofRoffa 1st May 2019 16:58

Gavin Williamson Sacked over Huawei Leaks
 
DefSec Williamson has been axed.

Letter here:

Penny Mordaunt is the replacement.

Treble one 1st May 2019 17:06

Story here
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48126974

NutLoose 1st May 2019 17:12

Shame, he struck me as a pro military minister as opposed to some of them that went before.

pr00ne 1st May 2019 17:19

Agree with Nutloose. I fear that Defence will regret this loss.

Melchett01 1st May 2019 17:21

I see Penny Morduant will retain her position as Minister for Women. Another part time Defence Secretary. Tells you everything you need to know, if you didnít already have questions, about the PMís opinion of the Forces. Disgusting.

I suspect this also means Williamson now has free rein to do as he sees fit now no longer constrained by Collective Responsibility.

Imagegear 1st May 2019 17:31

He's denying all responsibility...was his phone hacked, which phone were the calls made from, did a "meeting" occur???

I doubt this will be the end of the story.

IG

sharpend 1st May 2019 17:40

I doubt if May's government will last much longer anyway. Williamson is best out of it. As an aside, it seemed that May was, as usual, was/is going her own way anyway and ignoring the advice of her MOD staff.

And I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Is this a stitch-up?

Auxtank 1st May 2019 17:43


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10460698)
Agree with Nutloose. I fear that Defence will regret this loss.

Agreed also.

I blame the Russians. Hacked his phone and set him up like a duck.

There's more to this story than meets the eye.

Either way it's a shame, he was good at his job.

Fareastdriver 1st May 2019 18:00

You were all slagging him off when he first got the job.

https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...vin+williamson

racedo 1st May 2019 18:04

Inept, incompetent and great for jumping in without a clue.

When the list is drawn up of great Defence Secretaries he will not be listed on any page.

Onceapilot 1st May 2019 18:12

Oh dear, what a pity! Who here can know? What I have seen of him, from open reporting, is...diddly-squat! Shouted his mouth off at times but, fell on his face repeatedly. Where is his "thrice rehashed" Defence review? I see no evidence of some great new dawn of political Defence reality waiting to emerge and, I sense a continued "Softly, softly, Oooops" ...! :rolleyes:

OAP

Willard Whyte 1st May 2019 18:27


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10460725)
You were all slagging him off when he first got the job.

https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...vin+williamson

Yes, I did. I was wrong (-ish), in that he at least seemed to be 'on our side'.

I wonder whether any members of the NSC own a Huawei 'phone...

Out Of Trim 1st May 2019 18:43

I thought he was better than some of the previous Ministers, and stood up for The Armed Services rather well. I don't believe he leaked the NSC information. But someone did or otherwise the journalist added 2 and 2 and came up with the correct answer.

I'm pretty sure that Huawei equipment in our network could be a risk to out National Security. The rest of the Five Eyes certainly think so!

BirdmanBerry 1st May 2019 19:03

Without knowing how they found this out, surely the paper should be forced to show their source seeing as it was in breach of the OSA?

GeeRam 1st May 2019 19:12


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10460729)
When the list is drawn up of great Defence Secretaries he will not be listed on any page.

Is there even enough of those to be able to fill a single page :confused:

The Old Fat One 1st May 2019 19:27

hahahahahaha

"Strong and stable government"

lololololololololol

Willard Whyte 1st May 2019 19:40

At least she's previously been Minister of State for the Armed Forces and is a Royal Naval Reservist, so has some background in defence matters. Daughter of a former Para too.

Made I chuckle too (from Wiki):

When receiving The Spectator magazine's Parliamentarian of the Year award in November 2014, Mordaunt said that she had delivered a speech in the House of Commons just before the Easter recess in 2013 on poultry welfare so as to use the word "cock" as a forfeit for a misdemeanour during Naval Reserve training. Mordaunt used the word "cock" six times and "lay" or "laid" five times. Following her comments, she was accused by Labour MP Kate Hoey of trivialising parliament.

ORAC 1st May 2019 20:13

https://order-order.com/

Gavin Williamson has responded to the PM’s letter

Dear Prime Minister,

It has been a great privilege to serve as Defence Secretary and Chief Whip in your Government. Every day I have seen the extraordinary work of the men and women of our armed forces, who go to incredible lengths to defend our country.

I am sorry that you feel recent leaks from the National Security Council originated in my Department. I emphatically believe this was not the case. I strenuously deny that I was in any way involved in this leak and I am confident that a thorough and formal inquiry would have vindicated my position.

I have always trusted my civil servants, military advisers and staff. I believe the assurances they have given me.

I appreciate you offering me the option to resign, but to resign would have been to accept that I, my civil servants, my military advisers or my staff were responsible: this was not the case.

Restoring public confidence in the NSC is an ambition we both share. With that in mind I hope that your decision achieves this aim rather than being seen as a temporary distraction.

As I said there has been no greater privilege than working with our armed forces and I will continue to stand up for our service personnel and the superb work they do.

Yours,

Gavin



Auxtank 1st May 2019 20:28


Originally Posted by The Old Fat One (Post 10460790)
hahahahahaha

"Strong and stable government"

lololololololololol

Aside from your jocularity, I wonder; do you have any sort of plan as to how we might take the dear old country forward without us all becoming depressingly, wretchedly and ultimately a failure-bomb of pseudo-communism under Jeremy's silly little plans?

I ask purely for information.

Er, lol's - as they say...and as you have stated...

racedo 1st May 2019 21:12


Originally Posted by Willard Whyte (Post 10460801)
When receiving The Spectator magazine's Parliamentarian of the Year award in November 2014, Mordaunt said that she had delivered a speech in the House of Commons just before the Easter recess in 2013 on poultry welfare so as to use the word "cock" as a forfeit for a misdemeanour during Naval Reserve training. Mordaunt used the word "cock" six times and "lay" or "laid" five times. Following her comments, she was accused by Labour MP Kate Hoey of trivialising parliament.

Give her credit for it, as for trivialising parliment................ every day that is done,


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