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a330pilotcanada 1st May 2019 00:31

B-2 Spirit Cockpit Video
 
Good Evening All:
I found this video on another aviation web site which has the first cockpit video I have ever seen of a B-2 Spirit in flight.
I wonder how they ever let a reporter ride along in the B-2 let alone let the video out.


Rhino power 1st May 2019 00:56


Originally Posted by a330pilotcanada (Post 10460173)
I wonder how they ever let a reporter ride along in the B-2 let along let the video out.

Seriously?

-RP

a330pilotcanada 1st May 2019 01:01

I was under the "mistaken" impression that this aircraft was super squirrel stuff but I stand to be corrected by those with more experience...

Rhino power 1st May 2019 01:49


Originally Posted by a330pilotcanada (Post 10460183)
I was under the "mistaken" impression that this aircraft was super squirrel stuff...

Well, I have to admit to having no idea what a 'super squirrel' is, or represents but, do you seriously believe some random bloke blagged his way onto one of the most secure air bases in the world, then blagged his way into the crew room, blagged his way into some flying clothing, blagged his way into the cockpit of a B-2, managed to record a few seconds of non-descript footage of the instruments/displays, blagged his way off the (very secure) base again and then uploaded his nefarious video revealing all, sorry, I meant none, of the B-2s secrets? All of this without the USAF/DoD knowing about it and actually allowing it? The mind well and truly boggles...

-RP

tartare 1st May 2019 06:54

Although interesting - a bit of an anticlimactic meh to be honest..
All i see is a good old EFIS - and some of them multi-configurable flat green screens you see in most military jets.
Where's the plasma generator that's supposed to make it harder to see?!! (sarcasm alert)
And no cup holders - that's un-American!!
All the really secret or nukelar stuff is probably accessible on other menus - select the home screen and it could be an F-16!
The Batmobile is just a big ol funny shaped jet - with 767 wheels - and a very important mission.
And on secrecy - they put James May in the back of a U2 - and certain Senators got rides in the Blackbird.
Now - if it had been a B-21 cockpit video...

OvertHawk 1st May 2019 08:15


Originally Posted by Rhino power (Post 10460195)
Well, I have to admit to having no idea what a 'super squirrel' is, or represents but, do you seriously believe some random bloke blagged his way onto one of the most secure air bases in the world, then blagged his way into the crew room, blagged his way into some flying clothing, blagged his way into the cockpit of a B-2, managed to record a few seconds of non-descript footage of the instruments/displays, blagged his way off the (very secure) base again and then uploaded his nefarious video revealing all, sorry, I meant none, of the B-2s secrets? All of this without the USAF/DoD knowing about it and actually allowing it? The mind well and truly boggles...

-RP

If you can take your head out of the sarcastic bucket for a moment, I don't think for one second that is what the OP was suggesting.

I think he was merely stating surprise that the DOD permitted a journalist to ride along and allowed him to make and release a video. I'm surprised too.

charliegolf 1st May 2019 08:17


Well, I have to admit to having no idea what a 'super squirrel' is, or represents but, do you seriously believe some random bloke blagged his way onto one of the most secure air bases in the world, then blagged his way into the crew room, blagged his way into some flying clothing, blagged his way into the cockpit of a B-2, managed to record a few seconds of non-descript footage of the instruments/displays, blagged his way off the (very secure) base again and then uploaded his nefarious video revealing all, sorry, I meant none, of the B-2s secrets? All of this without the USAF/DoD knowing about it and actually allowing it? The mind well and truly boggles...
Bit harsh?

CG

melmothtw 1st May 2019 08:30


If you can take your head out of the sarcastic bucket for a moment, I don't think for one second that is what the OP was suggesting.

I think he was merely stating surprise that the DOD permitted a journalist to ride along and allowed him to make and release a video. I'm surprised too.
Indeed.

A couple of interesting takes for me was the ‘right-handed’ stick and throttle configuration for the Captain’s position, as opposed to it being a ‘left-handed’ configuration in the C-17 with the shared throttles in the centre console position (same is true for the A400M, though with a side-stick). Previously I’ve been told it makes no difference to fly the C-17/A400M ‘left-handed’, but NG clearly thought differently when they designed the B-2.

Also, what is the story with the internal front windshield at about 58 secs? I assume it’s to mask cockpit emissions for stealth purposes?


meleagertoo 1st May 2019 13:10


I wonder how they ever let a reporter ride along in the B-2 let alone let the video out.
Reporter? What makes anyone assume those two or three seconds of uninformative rapid-sweep blink-and-you-missed-it had a journalist involved, or that it revealed anything militatily useful to anyone?
The weapons engineer's granny could have done that - but far more likely the weapons engineer himself, or merely some erk from the phot section...

KenV 1st May 2019 15:39


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 10460322)
A couple of interesting takes for me was the ‘right-handed’ stick and throttle configuration for the Captain’s position, as opposed to it being a ‘left-handed’ configuration in the C-17 with the shared throttles in the centre console position (same is true for the A400M, though with a side-stick). Previously I’ve been told it makes no difference to fly the C-17/A400M ‘left-handed’, but NG clearly thought differently when they designed the B-2.

The B-1 had two right-handed pilot positions. When the general in charge of the B-1 program took over the C-17 program, he insisted it have two right-handed positions. When Douglas presented USAF with the bill for that late change their tune changed and the pilot positions remained mirror image. I doubt having two right hand positions was Northrop's idea. I'd guess that USAF imposed it on them as they tried to impose it on Douglas.


melmothtw 1st May 2019 16:03

Thats interesting Ken, thanks. Always thought the left-handed configuration to be odd, but had been convinced by others it was perfectly normal and natural. Not so sure now, though strangely it makes sense to me if there is a yoke rather than a stick.

just another jocky 2nd May 2019 05:27


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 10460627)
Thats interesting Ken, thanks. Always thought the left-handed configuration to be odd, but had been convinced by others it was perfectly normal and natural. Not so sure now, though strangely it makes sense to me if there is a yoke rather than a stick.

LH config is entirely natural to fly, even with a simple stick, even after 30+ years of flying the 'standard' configuration. It's just not a thing.


melmothtw 2nd May 2019 06:48

Thanks Jockey. I guess it just seems counter-intuitive to me, and I'm speaking as a leftie myself.

a330pilotcanada 2nd May 2019 17:15

Good Afternoon Melthmothtw:


A long time ago I was on one of first transition courses on the A-320 as a B-727 F/O to A-320 F/O.

It only took about 15 minutes in the simulator to feel comfortable with it and the same years later transitioning as Captain to the A-320 from a B767 F/O and the A-330 from Captain on a B-767. The one things you did have to watch for was the quick reaction to control inputs and not to "stir the pot"!

India Four Two 2nd May 2019 18:40

A very observant friend of mine pointed out that the No. 4 thrust lever is a different colour and has a differently-shaped knob than the other three.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1d60fc0c3.jpeg

Can anyone speculate on why that might be?

Thrust Augmentation 2nd May 2019 21:17


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10461460)
A very observant friend of mine pointed out that the No. 4 thrust lever is a different colour and has a differently-shaped knob than the other three.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1d60fc0c3.jpeg

Can anyone speculate on why that might be?

3 turbofans & 1 stealth drive, the black lever is there to remind you that you are talking to Scotty somewhere in the bowels of the ship who decides on stealth factor!

a330pilotcanada 3rd May 2019 01:04

Good Evening India 24 and Thrust Augmentation:
Could this be a "master slave" concept for auto-thrust?

rvusa 3rd May 2019 07:35


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10461460)
A very observant friend of mine pointed out that the No. 4 thrust lever is a different colour and has a differently-shaped knob than the other three.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1d60fc0c3.jpeg

Can anyone speculate on why that might be?

It's a good place to put any required 'switchery' as, obviously, you can't fit (or operate) switches from the other throttles, when all engines running equally.

MPN11 3rd May 2019 13:16

Theory from an idiot ... black moves all 4 levers synchronously?

India Four Two 3rd May 2019 15:38

MPN11,

That was my friend’s suggestion and he’s not an idiot! ;)


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