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dead_pan 6th Mar 2019 10:31

Not surprised TBH given the response to the last show, also the rise of RIAT as a (primarily mil) trade show. End of an era though

andrewn 6th Mar 2019 12:19

Airshows are on borrowed time in the UK, at least anything that resembles an "air" show. The combination of Shoreham and rampant development of, and around, airfields is a pretty fatal one. If RIAT ever do get the push from Fairford that will be the end of that one as well, as there is literally nowhere else suitable left in the whole country for a sizeable airshow to take place.

Sad times and its all happened on our watch....

Brian 48nav 6th Mar 2019 19:17

SwanFIS

Lighting op Heathrow?

Pontius Navigator 6th Mar 2019 20:41

Ewan, your last was correct but citing Russian and American air shows was not. As they were not in UK all that would happen Is a check if our procedures to see if there were lessons to be learnt.

Tankertrashnav 6th Mar 2019 23:57

I live around 6 miles by road from the main gate at Culdrose. When I first came to live here in 1977 I went to Culdrose Air Day. I drove down my drive and immediately joined the end of the queue to get into the show. I think the last one was held in 2016, and now it has been "combined" with the one at Yeovilton, which is "only" about 150 miles away, so that's ok! Nothing to do with Shoreham, I think the writing was on the wall for years as attendance dwindled. The navy blames manpower shortages for cancelling the show, which I can well believe, but in any case once the big noisy jets have gone off the programme, what have you got left to impress Joe Public?

ATSA1 7th Mar 2019 06:18

The last couple of shows at the "other" Trade Show, Paris, have been disappointing too...how long before that goes the same way?

reds & greens 7th Mar 2019 08:43

Statement of the forum so far ... "Airshows are on borrowed time"

mmitch 7th Mar 2019 09:01

So I suppose there will be even more spectators outside the fence in the nearby streets?
mmitch.

tartare 7th Mar 2019 09:20


Originally Posted by Tashengurt (Post 10408258)
Farnborough on the TV, Raymond Baxter giving the commentary.
Theres my childhood, right there!

Me also.
At the time I were a little ignorant oik in shorts in UnZud.
But I always absolutely Ioved the bit near the end when the commentator chap went for the ride in the Harrier or the Jag - they kept a live feed of his voice - and he sounded funny when they pulled the sharp turns.
How was a young fella to know the commentator was a former WW2 Spitfire pilot.

downsizer 7th Mar 2019 09:59

I didn't realise putting on airshows was a priority task for defence.

Chris Kebab 7th Mar 2019 10:33

...agree to a point but I think the taxpayer ought to be able to see what they are paying for occassionally, and maybe meet the folks doing the business on their behalf.

GeeRam 7th Mar 2019 11:26


Originally Posted by Chris Kebab (Post 10409373)
...agree to a point but I think the taxpayer ought to be able to see what they are paying for occassionally, and maybe meet the folks doing the business on their behalf.

And also thus encourage the next generations into wanting to join as well.......

The ever shrinking understanding of the services by Joe Public is entirely coincidental with the ever shrinking size of the forces and hand-on exposure to the forces.

Be that RAF At Home Days, Navy Dockyard Days, or general military Tattoo's such as the Royal Tournament..............all pretty much gone now, and its almost as if the forces are almost hidden from public view!




chevvron 7th Mar 2019 14:49


Originally Posted by Tashengurt (Post 10408258)
Farnborough on the TV, Raymond Baxter giving the commentary.
Theres my childhood, right there!

I watched it avidly on TV in the '50s, not knowing that from 1976 onwards I would be put 'in charge' of writing the daily display programme, a task which I continued until 'Farnborough International' took it over from 2006 onwards.

MarcK 7th Mar 2019 16:01

From Flanders and Swann:

I agree with the old lady who said, 'If God had intended us to fly, He would never have given us the railways.'

SwanFIS 8th Mar 2019 07:52

Brian 48nav

Nope, my name says it all! :rolleyes:

BVRAAM 8th Mar 2019 09:10

Good, because now they have more time to put in to organising the trade show and it gives me something to look forward to. I think for most people with a serious interest in aviation, the technology is just as cool as flying.
After RIAT, very few shows actually tick my boxes. I think Flying Legends/BoB Air Show and Jersey's air day (Swedish jets) are really the only ones I'd consider. Yeovilton for flares would be cool if I had the time.

melmothtw 8th Mar 2019 09:39


Yeovilton for flares
That could be misconstrued.

ivor toolbox 8th Mar 2019 19:29


Originally Posted by BVRAAM (Post 10410244)
Good, because now they have more time to put in to organising the trade show and it gives me something to look forward to. I think for most people with a serious interest in aviation, the technology is just as cool as flying.
After RIAT, very few shows actually tick my boxes. I think Flying Legends/BoB Air Show and Jersey's air day (Swedish jets) are really the only ones I'd consider. Yeovilton for flares would be cool if I had the time.

It always was a trade show, going under the name of the Society of British Aerospace Constructors, back in the day we had rather more Aerospace Construction going on in Blighty, hence the diverse military types. However, the past 2 shows have basically been the Airbus vs Boeing show, with a few hangers on that have largely departed by the mid-week, leaving the weekend shows to be gap filled with whatever could be had. Then the Shoreham effect meant most fj displays were happening well out over Laffans Plain, and nearly to Odiham. The final nail, was lack of display by the Red Arrows, pretty much the only reason parents allowed themselves to be dragged along there by their offspring.

Ttfn

pax britanica 8th Mar 2019 19:44

As a local resident this in sad news but the last show was dire and far too expensive .

OK FNB is hardly an ideal location being literally in the middle of the town even though the western end is fairly open but it iconic and very popular with local people . OK they have built a housing estate right on the airfield but people clearly saw what they were getting into there.

Move it to Blackbushe just up the road for the display-nice and remote but no facilities .It brings a huge amount of business to local hotels pubs bnbs taxi firms etc and will be seen as very serious news by the business community. As for the silly snowflake stereotype -after all a snowflake is one of the worlds most beautiful shapes- in my experience it is the Xenophobic hang em and flog em characters who object to most developments and activities as they focus much of their life on property values.


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