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flybeboy 28th Feb 2019 07:49

Chivenor to stay open
 
Announced today rmb chivenor is not to close, but to stay open, more details by defence minister today but good news, lets hope they use the airfield properly again.

WE Branch Fanatic 28th Feb 2019 12:55

MOD news story here - yes RMB Chivenor is being retained long term.

Innominate 28th Feb 2019 14:21

It seems from https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/782294/Estate_document_for_gov.uk.pdf that Halton was originally due to close in 2022 but now will not close until 2025. Colerne and Henlow also have revised closure dates.

Shackman 28th Feb 2019 16:04

Some good corporate speak in that document, but I've obviously been out of the loop too long. WTF does

the optimum laydown required to support operational capability
mean in English. I assume something along the lines of we need to keep it going 'cos we need the facilities/accommodation/playing fields or whatever, but really?

pr00ne 1st Mar 2019 17:25

Shackman,

Which words are you struggling to understand? Would a dictionary help?

Actually goos news for 'airfields' all round yesterday, as well as Chivenor the airfield at Arbroath and that at Woodbridge are to be retained.

Al-bert 1st Mar 2019 20:47


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10404084)
Shackman,

Which words are you struggling to understand? Would a dictionary help?

Actually goos news for 'airfields' all round yesterday, as well as Chivenor the airfield at Arbroath and that at Woodbridge are to be retained.

OOPS! would a spell check help? :=

Always a Sapper 1st Mar 2019 22:48


DIO Head Office Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands
2020 2021 Updated disposal date following detailed work to assess the optimum laydown required to support operational capability.
I don't think we would notice if that one was shut and sold off over the weekend, if anything things 'FM' might even improve!
As for optimum laydown required to support operational capability.... Anyone wish to make suggestions?

AnglianAV8R 2nd Mar 2019 13:24


Originally Posted by Always a Sapper (Post 10404343)
As for optimum laydown required to support operational capability.... Anyone wish to make suggestions?

Come along chaps. Give us your ideas, then we'll run them up the flagpole and see how they fly.
This will require thinking outside the box on an individual basis or we could have a mind shower.
You military folk need to embrace the genre and raise the bar.

Please ensure all answers submitted are robust, scalable, agile and capable of leveraging, in line with current progressive and inclusive policies.


wub 2nd Mar 2019 13:28

Thinking out of the box here, perhaps the ground has poor drainage and needs to be covered in PSP before it can be used. (Robust and scalable enough?)

pr00ne 2nd Mar 2019 13:41

Al-bert,

Not at all!

"is a goos news day!"

pr00ne 2nd Mar 2019 13:52

So, for all the hard of comprehension;

Optimum = "most conducive to a favourable outcome."
laydown = "second single from Melanie Safka's 1970 album Candles in the wind." OR "Laydown delivery is a method of attack utilising a free fall nuclear weapon" OR just maybe it is slang for MoD occupied land.
Required = "Officially, compulsory or otherwise considered essential."
To = "Expressing motion in the direction of a particular direction."
Support = "bear all or part of the weight of."
Operational = "In or ready for use."
Capability = "the power or capability to do something."

Hope that helps.

I do wonder how some of you cope in 2019.

Shackman 2nd Mar 2019 14:00

Thank you for your erudite reply pr00ne. I suspect we all know what the individual words mean, but putting them together in the document has given rise to gobbledegook. A bit like Eric Morecombe - playing all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order.

pr00ne 2nd Mar 2019 14:04

Shackman,

Not really. The only word that could be counted as you describe is laydown. Anyone engaging in business or commercial related conversation today would have no issue with recognising the meaning of the phrase used.

Just another way of saying that they are still sorting out where units from locations scheduled to close are to be redeployed, and the cost and effort of so doing.

Shackman 2nd Mar 2019 16:45

pr00ne - thank you; the light dawneth. Unfortunately having been military all my life and used to plain (straight) speaking in briefings and service papers I still find obfuscation and management/marketing talk difficult to understand.

I'm now going for a laydown to support my poorly operating eyes.

Big Pistons Forever 2nd Mar 2019 22:45

I now work for a Canadian Government Ministry.. Last year the department rolled out with much fan fare a new "Plain Language Commissioner". The next day I received a meeting report from the annual get together of the big wigs. It was so full of management speak bollocks I sent it to the plain language commissioner for translation !

BEagle 3rd Mar 2019 07:24

I recall a request for 'stakeholder engagement'...

To which a reply was sent, along the lines of "WTF do you want? I'm not Vlad the Impaler - please write in English!".

MrBernoulli 4th Mar 2019 08:49


Originally Posted by Shackman (Post 10405037)
I'm now going for a laydown to support my poorly operating eyes.

And I've just been for a sit down, and sent an MoD paper shuffler around the bend. :E

safetypee 4th Mar 2019 09:10

“Spherical Objects”;
Yes Minister. ‘Who is Spherical, and to what does he object.’

flybeboy 4th Mar 2019 20:43

Will the runway be used again
 
The defence sec said at chiv, we are very very excited what we could do hear in the future, more personall could be based hear, and it has an airstrip. What do people think about the mod doing up the runway again and reopening it or will it carry on as it is, disused put used for heli exercises, training, and the hercs use it sometimes..will it open fully again


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