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ORAC 26th Feb 2019 06:04

Indian Air Strikes in Pakistan
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-kashmir-bomb

India claims airstrikes on Pakistan 'terror camps' across disputed Kashmir border

Indian ministers have said that air force jets have struck “terror camps” across the ceasefire line in Kashmir, the first aerial bombing over the disputed border since the country went to war with Pakistan in 1971.

“The military has taken this necessary step for the country’s security. It was an act of extreme valour. PM [Narendra] Modi had earlier given the armed forces the freedom to take action. Today, the entire country is with the forces,” said Prakash Javadekar, the human resources development minister, in the first official acknowledgement of the operation on Tuesday.......

The Indian army and senior ministers have yet to officially comment but sources told an Indian news agency that 12 fighter jets had crossed into Pakistani territory and destroyed a militant training camp. India’s cabinet committee on security was meeting in Delhi and was expected to make a statement afterwards.

Pakistan’s armed forces spokesman major-general Asif Ghafoor said on Tuesday morning there had been contact between the two countries’ aircraft after a breach by the Indian side.........








CISAtSea 26th Feb 2019 11:33

I love the way this raid has been described as "heightening tensions". I wonder what our view would be if France bombed us?

oldmansquipper 26th Feb 2019 12:51


Originally Posted by CISAtSea (Post 10400891)
I love the way this raid has been described as "heightening tensions". I wonder what our view would be if France bombed us?

probably relief, as they would be sure to surrender shortly after.......

IGMC.

Archimedes 26th Feb 2019 13:13


Originally Posted by CISAtSea (Post 10400891)
I love the way this raid has been described as "heightening tensions". I wonder what our view would be if France bombed us?

'In a bombing duel with the French, they would squeal before we do'

MRAF Viscount Trenchard, 1923.

Rumours that he wanted this included as official RAF doctrine in AP1300 are unproven....

TBM-Legend 26th Feb 2019 22:02


I love the way this raid has been described as "heightening tensions". I wonder what our view would be if France bombed us?
What's wrong with an RAF air strike on the 'terrorist camps' in the Calais area?

tartare 26th Feb 2019 22:29

That's quite a long way inside Pakistan - about 50-60kms northeast of Abbottabad.

Lonewolf_50 27th Feb 2019 01:15

Why didn't they go further in? Apparently, those whose airspace it was are unable to stop them. (Or perhaps asleep at the wheel)

denlopviper 27th Feb 2019 05:25

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0382ff440f.jpg
Hardly. They were within 5NM of the line of control and total duration inside Pakistani airspace was less than a minute..

the village mentioned is Balakot 34°31'58"N 73°21'20"E

the line of controls closest point is 34°31'11"N 73°25'48"E

denlopviper 27th Feb 2019 05:39

Also


In response to PAF strikes this morning as released by MoFA, IAF crossed LOC. PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace. One of the aircraft fell inside AJ&K while other fell inside IOK. One Indian pilot arrested by troops on ground while two in the area.

Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor (@OfficialDGISPR)

https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR

BVRAAM 27th Feb 2019 06:05

I just hope they don't nuke each other.

I have a little bit of understanding of the rivalry and at times hatred between the two countries. This is looking ugly.

DroneDog 27th Feb 2019 06:31

I have just read on various sources that India has claimed to have shot down a Pakistani F16

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/a...strikes/373377

ORAC 27th Feb 2019 06:32

Pakistan has also retaliated....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ir-pti-reports

Pakistan Downs Two Indian Jets, Pilot Arrested, Army Says

Pakistani fighter jets shot down two Indian aircraft on Wednesday, according to a military spokesman, in a dramatic escalation just one day after the Indian Air Force bombed a terrorist training camp inside Pakistan.

Pakistan’s air force "shot down two Indian aircraft inside Pakistani airspace," said military spokesman Asif Ghafoor. One of the aircraft fell inside Pakistan-controlled Kashmir, and the other crashed on India’s side of the Line of Control. An Indian pilot ejected over Pakistani territory and was arrested, he said.

Pakistan’s air force struck at targets inside Indian-controlled Kashmir on Wednesday, but did so from their own airspace, according to a separate statement from Pakistan’s foreign ministry.

"We have no intention of escalation, but are fully prepared to do so if forced into that paradigm. That is why we undertook the action with clear warning and in broad daylight," the Pakistan foreign ministry statement said......


seafury45 27th Feb 2019 06:33

interesting. Our wonderful news outlets here in Australia are reporting that an Indian Air Force jet crashed, (not shot down) and both crew killed. Our news outlets are not renowned for accuracy! I cannot post a link but it is nine.com.au

ORAC 27th Feb 2019 06:33


tartare 27th Feb 2019 06:49

A pic posted on Twitter just now showed the wreckage of what looked like a Hawk!
Had an IAF tail-flash.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0ZMqjXWoAE1x89.jpg:large

Pic is actually from a year old crash Odisha's Mayurbhanj district.

http://www.millenniumpost.in/nation/...ot-safe-290478

denlopviper 27th Feb 2019 06:52


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10401579)

Acatually nope. All fighters back and accounted for.

However the 2 IAF jets shot down. Pilots captured. ID of pilots to be released soon.

total of 3 IAF aircraft loss. 2 in engagement with PAF and one noncombat loss

Wizofoz 27th Feb 2019 07:14

So what type was the Indian aircraft, and was it air-to-air or ground fire?

denlopviper 27th Feb 2019 07:19


Originally Posted by Wizofoz (Post 10401614)
So what type was the Indian aircraft, and was it air-to-air or ground fire?

Air to air engagement. waiting for details

but here's one of the IAF pilots

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fb7b0e9d26.jpg

oldmansquipper 27th Feb 2019 07:23

Q: any JF 17 "Thunder" in the action?

ORAC 27th Feb 2019 07:24

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/68179821.cms

A day after the Indian Air Force's (IAF) strike in Pakistan, an IAF aircraft crashed on Wednesday in Budgam district of Jammu and Kashmir, killing two people, officials said. As per initial reports, the aircraft crashed due to technical failure.

Officials in Srinagar described the downed aircraft as a jet, which crashed in an open field near Garend Kalaan village in Budgam at 10.05 am. Other officials in New Delhi said it was an Mi-17 helicopter. The conflicting reports could not be immediately reconciled.

The jet crashed in an open field near Garend Kalaan village in Budgam at 10.05 am, the officials said. The Srinagar officials said the aircraft broke into two and caught fire immediately. The identity of the two deceased could not be confirmed immediately, they said.

Meanwhile, in a separate report, officials said that Pakistani jets violated Indian air space in J-K's Poonch and Rajouri sectors, drop bombs on way out. Officials said at least three Pakistan combat aircraft entered Indian airspace.

As part of precautionary measure, civilian air traffic has been stopped at various airports. Airports in Jammu, Srinagar and Leh have been put on high alert. Flights to Jammu, Srinagar, Leh, Amritsar, Pathankot, Chandigadh, Dehradun and Dharamshala have been suspended till further notice........


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