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Lonewolf_50 10th Jan 2019 03:40

Flight Ops A Century Ago: have a look
 
This video is purported to be of Manfred von Richtoffen.
Please provide your opinions regarding the veracity of the claim.
https://videos.komando.com/watch/809...ter-pilot-ever

I think it's legit, but it might be a red herring.

Lynxman 10th Jan 2019 04:57

Certainly looks like him.

Buster Hyman 10th Jan 2019 05:57

The size of those pants though...you sure it wasn't Goering? :p

I'd love to see what Peter Jacksons team could do with that though.

Wart108 10th Jan 2019 06:35

Check out the serial number. He was known to fly that aircraft at that time

uffington sb 10th Jan 2019 06:47

I thought he had his chin strap down from his cap, but when he took it off, it was still there!

Pontius Navigator 10th Jan 2019 08:21


Originally Posted by uffington sb (Post 10356703)
I thought he had his chin strap down from his cap, but when he took it off, it was still there!

Agree, it looked as if he had something on his head.

Herod 10th Jan 2019 08:38

That's either to keep his ego under control, or a direct brain-control link to the Great Spaghetti Monster

Fareastdriver 10th Jan 2019 09:08

The RFC pilot looks fairly happy. He's going to last out the War

izod tester 10th Jan 2019 09:17

Richthofen suffered a head injury on 6 July 1917, perhaps that strap is part of a wound dressing.

teeteringhead 10th Jan 2019 09:56


The size of those pants though...you sure it wasn't Goering?
Could be stores issue!!

IIRC Herman G was on Richtofen's Squadron and - I think - took over as Boss when Manfred was shot down....

Tashengurt 10th Jan 2019 10:08

Really interesting film without the jerky speeded up frame rate older films often have.
Makes me want to go read Biggles. (Probably can't get Biggles books anymore. Way too un PC)

Archimedes 10th Jan 2019 10:31

The film has been around for a while now - you can find a transcript/description of the footage and some details here

Richthofen was replaced as commander of JG1 by Wilhelm Reinhard; he was killed in a flying accident in July and Goering replaced him.

Reinhard and Goering both attended the flying trials, and after Goering had flown a prototype Dornier-Zeppelin D.I, Reinhard had a go; the top wing separated from the aircraft in a dive and he was killed. It transpired that the aircraft was meant to be grounded because of structural weakness, but as some observers have noted, had Reinhard had the first flight and then hopped out to let Goering have a try, the history of the Third Reich might have been very different indeed...

Buster Hyman 10th Jan 2019 10:58


Originally Posted by Archimedes (Post 10356879)
but as some observers have noted, had Reinhard had the first flight and then hopped out to let Goering have a try, the history of the Third Reich might have been very different indeed...

Especially if he crashed in a trench where some grubby little Corporal was hiding!

NRU74 10th Jan 2019 11:22

In the 1970’s I went on a Pongo organised course in Berlin.
On one of the visits to East Berlin we visited von Richtofen’s grave (I have a photo which I can’t locate)
If Wiki’s correct it appears he’s been re-interred in Weisbaden.

uffington sb 10th Jan 2019 12:42

Fareastdriver.

He does look happy. He’s probably just been told that he’ll see out the war in a convent school just outside Heidelberg teaching nuns home economics.

binbrook 10th Jan 2019 14:37

Is that perhaps Hermann at 3.05 on the left?

Wensleydale 10th Jan 2019 21:34


Reinhard and Goering both attended the flying trials, and after Goering had flown a prototype Dornier-Zeppelin D.I, Reinhard had a go; the top wing separated from the aircraft in a dive and he was killed. It transpired that the aircraft was meant to be grounded because of structural weakness, but as some observers have noted, had Reinhard had the first flight and then hopped out to let Goering have a try, the history of the Third Reich might have been very different indeed...
The plot at the end of the film "The Blue Max" I believe (George Peppard wrote off the experimental though).

Union Jack 10th Jan 2019 21:36


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10356809)
The RFC pilot looks fairly happy. He's going to last out the War

Any lip readers on duty this evening? And yes, I believe that Binbrook is on the ball - or perhaps that should be two balls, but very small.....

Jack


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