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Originally Posted by zetec2
(Post 10363963)
As well as operating out of St Mawgan in October 1971 and Wattisham a year later using a U-2R, all using RAF pilots,
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Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 10364097)
How about that "unknown" helicopter that fetched up in ol' Bin Liiner's back garden just before he went to receive those virginal kisses?
Pretty neat False Information Plan by the SEAL's to place the wreckage there for the Pakistani's to flog to the highest bidder I reckon. |
Originally Posted by Tashengurt
(Post 10364169)
Isn't the consensus now that it acted as a handy excuse for Pakistan allowing the task force to enter unmolested?
Don't tell me that some other observers are now finally publically concurring with me regarding my independent assessments on PPruNe over nearly eight years now that the original "Stealth Blackhawk" cover story was pretty preposterous, as was the existence of it as an operational helicopter I am still happy to be corrected if this is not the case. P.S. Although it was glaringly obvious at the time, I restrained from involving in conjecture regarding " that it acted as a handy excuse for Pakistan allowing the task force to enter unmolested" |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10363695)
Sorry got the wrong impression; the chase car was operating on the runway at Bedford one day when I visited and from what one of the Bedford controllers (AM) told me that day I thought it was a daily occurence.
Course it did mean when a TR1 landed at Farnborough for the airshow, I was the only one who wasn't surprised when the chase car entered the runway behind it; everyone else was panicking asking what he was doing! |
The Blackhawk crew and along with Bin Liner rode home in a Chinook.....was it a stealth model?
The Exfil is just as...or more dangerous than the Infil due to the locals. being aware of something going on in their patch. |
INTERESTING- National geographic history channel has a program on Have blue- Oxcart- F117 and other non existant stuff at area 51- but so far no sign of sound and photo stage of the moon landing . . .or ET propulsion systems . ..
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Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 10357231)
Bizarre negative posts are actually quite common here you know.:E
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 10355804)
Nearly got killed in a car crash by the head of U2 operations in Cyprus back in 1977. The detachment had had just been allowed to start going off the SBA and he came out to Cyprus on a visit and he, along with the detachment commander, came up to 280SU on a curtesy call as we provided their radar surveillance. The plan was to meet in the mess and go down to Kakpetria for a meze in their SUV. What we were unaware of was that they had been drinking all afternoon. Halfway down the mountain the car left the road, rolled down a slope and ended up in a storm drain on its roof. Thankfully the water only half filled the interior and we were able to kick out the windscreen. In the car along with the two of them were me and, IIRC, HW. Police attended, taken to hospital, lots of urgent telephone calls and both the Americans were off the island in 12 hours. Shortly after the det had another crash off base which killed two female schoolteachers and injured two of their pilots. That left them so short they flew in another to maintain their flying schedule. He was the one who took out the ATC tower, Ops and Met office on his first take-off. They got got barred from going base again after that. |
Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 10364493)
The Blackhawk crew and along with Bin Liner rode home in a Chinook.....was it a stealth model?
The Exfil is just as...or more dangerous than the Infil due to the locals. being aware of something going on in their patch. https://theaviationist.com/2011/05/18/mh-47x/ https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8e8966c88c.jpg |
Janet
Never saw Janet on approached McCarran on the day after Heli Expo last year....
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f1c63f5c9b.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....22800c790b.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7f4f762453.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3396afe1a7.jpg |
Janet don't half do a steep turn when she's got the gear up out of McCarran.
"Holy ****e'" thought I on seeing her taking off many years ago while in Vegas - "...who's the hot-dogging 737 driver?" Then I recognised the red stripe and lack of logos. Destination Groom... |
Originally Posted by tartare
(Post 10366009)
Janet don't half do a steep turn when she's got the gear up out of McCarran.
"Holy ****e'" thought I on seeing her taking off many years ago while in Vegas - "...who's the hot-dogging 737 driver?" Then I recognised the red stripe and lack of logos. Destination Groom... Then again remember the Vegas shooter? Apparently he was aiming for the fuel tanks next to JANET facility at McCarran...says investigators... https://nypost.com/2017/10/05/vegas-...es-fuel-tanks/ cheers |
I sometimes land at Yekaterinburg, as Sverdlovsk is now known. This is the place where a certain Frank Powers got shot down on May 1 1960. There is an IFR waypoint named 'DEBRI' south east of the airfield, and I wonder if this is where his U-2 ended up. Does anyone know? certainly seems a possibility. |
Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 10364493)
The Blackhawk crew and along with Bin Liner rode home in a Chinook.....was it a stealth model?
The Exfil is just as...or more dangerous than the Infil due to the locals. being aware of something going on in their patch. Couple of years ago, I was out in my back garden killing slugs at 4.25am when a couple of them went westbound on H3 which passes just north of my home; compared to other Chinooks (we get them frequently to/from Odiham) they were barely audible and this was only from about one mile away. |
Originally Posted by Murty
(Post 10364465)
Yes I know who you mean I think more commonly (TM) I believe
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10367549)
There are some VERY quiet Chinooks around.
Couple of years ago, I was out in my back garden killing slugs at 4.25am when a couple of them went westbound on H3 which passes just north of my home; compared to other Chinooks (we get them frequently to/from Odiham) they were barely audible and this was only from about one mile away. |
Yes. Of course.
Yes. |
On the U2 there is a fascinating article in Aeroplane this month that points out there were plans for the UK to acquire them, the last one being in 89 ish when six of the recon platforms were in the offing as competition against the eventual winner the business jet Sentinal we use today. |
Same Chinooks - just different atmospheric conditions on the day. |
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