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boxmover 29th Dec 2018 18:49


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 10344782)
Wee, Just how good are Aircraft Engineers at forecasting spares usage?

If the assumed spare usage is correct for the planned operational period....fine.

What happens when the deployment gets extended....remembering some of our Carriers have stayed at sea and operational for very long times....what then?

Can the UK Carriers conduct underway replenishment to transfer those lacking Spares?

Does the RN have the cargo carrying capacity to do a re-supply to the carrier for those odd items that might be missing from the Carrier stocks in a timely fashion?

It is a long way from Plymouth to the Persian Gulf.

Are your carriers capable of 159 days at sea without a Port Call....without being resupplied with aircraft spares, food, fuel, armament, etc?

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Fuel, food, armaments and most and possibly all spares can be transferred to a Carrier via the normal RAS/Vert Rep. The only potential issue is with very large/delicate equipment. With good packaging it should be possible to Vert Rep engines.

The Sultan 30th Dec 2018 03:57


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 10345463)
The F-35 rotates its nozzle(s) up away from the deck after landing....not so the Osprey with those rather awkward Prop Rotor things either whacking the Deck or Grooming the Marshaller's Top Knots.

The Osprey can run with the nacelles tilted to minimize heat on surfaces and move them vertical for vto or tilt further for stol.

Mk 1 31st Dec 2018 00:44


Originally Posted by The Sultan (Post 10347019)


The Osprey can run with the nacelles tilted to minimize heat on surfaces and move them vertical for vto or tilt further for stol.

That would make for an interesting deck with blades turning at say knee height. Or are you taking about stopping and disengaging the proprotors before tilting? Can that even be done?

FleurDeLys 31st Dec 2018 10:00

Given that each of the two QE class carriers was built to carry 40 F35s, but that we only have 3 a/c on order for delivery by 2022 (only half of the these for RN, rest RAF), one assumes there will, or the foreseeable future at least, be PLENTY of storage space left over on the hangar deck for capital spares such as engines which would be difficult to bring on board at sea.

ORAC 31st Dec 2018 10:57

Don’t forget the USMC squadron - presumably with spares being delivered by CMV-22.....

orca 1st Jan 2019 08:05

FleurdeLys

I think you mean ‘none for the RN’ - all for the RAF. Whilst the force is a Joint one the RN won’t take delivery of a single aircraft.

SASless 1st Jan 2019 12:41

Now let's get this straight.....the RN has two Aircraft Carriers....but no FJ aircraft?

But....the RAF which was split off from the RN long before WWII.....has no Aircraft Carriers.

Now what could possibly go wrong?

What color uniforms will the RAF Naval Air Half Squadrons wear? (Please don't morph into a dissertation on Hat Badges please.....as this is all too complicated all of a sudden as it is.)

The Sultan 1st Jan 2019 21:36


Originally Posted by Mk 1 (Post 10347727)
That would make for an interesting deck with blades turning at say knee height. Or are you taking about stopping and disengaging the proprotors before tilting? Can that even be done?

in a short/running takeoff the blade tips would be above 7 ft so no kneecapping. However this is irrelevant as when making the takeoff run the deck in front will be clear.

Note: The CV-22’s will routinely STOL to accommodate higher payloads.


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