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tartare 5th Dec 2018 02:28

Has Air Marshall Wigston driven anything pointy during his career thus far?
Didn't seem so from my uneducated reading of his CV.
I had always assumed that the head of the service had usually been a flyer - and usually a fast jet flyer at that.
Not judging - just curious...

roving 5th Dec 2018 03:01

It appears that he has.

CAREER HISTORY

1986 - Commissioned on a University Cadetship

1992 – Completed pilot training on Tornado GR1

This was followed by a succession of frontline tours, including operational deployments enforcing the no-fly zones in Iraq.

2005 – Assumed command of 12 (Bomber) Squadron

Flying the Tornado GR4 and leading the Squadron on two operational tours in Iraq and large force exercises in Canada, Malaysia and the USA.

2007 – Commander of 903 Expeditionary Air Wing in Iraq

Supporting a number of aircraft types such as Typhoon FGR4, Tornado GR4 and C130 Hercules.

2013 – Tornado Force Commander

https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisat...el-capability/

tartare 5th Dec 2018 03:04

I stand corrected.
Is it a given that CAS must have been a fast jet driver at some point?

Bob Viking 5th Dec 2018 05:53

Tartare
 
No. It is not essential that CAS has a FJ background.

It is a fact, though, that FJ pilots are just far superior to everyone else and therefore it makes it a sensible course of action.

BV

(For all those sensitive poppets out there, this post is meant in jest!)

Old-Duffer 5th Dec 2018 06:12

Cor, Bob Viking - despite your bracketed caveat - the rotary wing mafia (in the absence of their maritime equivalent) are sharpening their swords as I pen this.

You are brave but reckless officer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OD

orca 5th Dec 2018 06:43

OD,

Whilst BV does have a point - I do note that CAS desig is one of the subset of FJ drivers who can’t find their own way home. 😉

Lima Juliet 5th Dec 2018 07:47


Originally Posted by orca (Post 10328231)
OD,

Whilst BV does have a point - I do note that CAS desig is one of the subset of FJ drivers who can’t find their own way home. 😉

Probably because they want someone who had flown an aircraft that has strategic reach and far ranging capabilities - rather than a subsonic pig, with mainly a support-the-troops role that can fly backwards at airshows? ;);)

Just This Once... 5th Dec 2018 10:30


Originally Posted by orca (Post 10328231)
...CAS desig is one of the subset of FJ drivers who... ��

...has dropped a live KRET in the face of one of his own formation.

Melchett01 5th Dec 2018 12:09


Originally Posted by Old-Duffer (Post 10328216)
Cor, Bob Viking - despite your bracketed caveat - the rotary wing mafia (in the absence of their maritime equivalent) are sharpening their swords as I pen this.

You are brave but reckless officer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OD

Having been thoroughly dunked in a vat of purple paint, my dog in this fight these days is a small terrier - Scrappy Doo if you like. But I would suggest it's potentially a long walk home when superior FJ skills lose out to the laws of physics without a helicopter to give you a lift. And one thing I quickly learned about FJ pilots, they really don't like walking - can't even manage a round of golf without sitting on one of those motorised shopping carts ;-)

Davef68 5th Dec 2018 13:29

Incumbent before the current post holder flew whirly things

Old-Duffer 5th Dec 2018 14:55

My earlier caution to Bob Viking was not meant to signal open warfare between the various types of 'drivers airframe', 'directional consultants' or anybody else but clearly it has fired the combative ppruners to take to the barricades.

I must search out a Christmas card received many moons ago which had a photo of Avro's tin triangle with a Blue Steel tucked underneath, on the front. When opened, the card held the message: 'Peace on earth and goodwill to all men - From the RAF's nuclear strike force'.

O-D

Bob Viking 5th Dec 2018 15:41

O-D
 
Personally I think the inter fleet banter is far more interesting than discussing the relative merits of senior officers.

I also think it’s probably fair to say I started it.

You're all most welcome.

BV

Onceapilot 5th Dec 2018 16:10


Originally Posted by Just This Once... (Post 10328400)
...has dropped a live KRET in the face of one of his own formation.

Very interesting... More info might amuse. :ouch:

OAP

oxenos 5th Dec 2018 17:05

I can't think why the R.A.F., R.N. etc. do not consult Ppruners BEFORE making appointments, thus gaining the benefit of of our vast experience, inside knowledge etc.

MPN11 5th Dec 2018 17:11

Ah, Upward Reporting! As a deal-breaker it has potential! :D

tartare 6th Dec 2018 03:33

KRET?
Google's no help.
Kinetic Radio Emitting...???

Bob Viking 6th Dec 2018 04:31

Tartare
 
'K' meaning one thousand. 'RET' meaning retarded. Therefore KRET = 1000 pound retarded bomb. Now a legacy weapon.

I do not know any details of the story in question. It sounds like an honest mistake though!

BV

Red Line Entry 6th Dec 2018 07:45

[QUOTE][It sounds like an honest mistake though!/QUOTE]

It would be a bit worrying if it had been intentional!

RHINO 6th Dec 2018 08:40

I guess if you do the hard yards you get the rewards. That being said having the top operational job does not seem a good precursor to becoming CAS. I will let this forum debate that one...

Remember when Steve was a Flying Officer and Elaine, by my calibration, was at least a Squadron leader and that is RAF not WRAF....! Hope they have an enjoyable retirement, they have certainly earn't it.

melmothtw 6th Dec 2018 08:52


Incumbent before the current post holder flew whirly things
I've covered quite a few CASs during my time as a defence journo, but without doubt Pulford was the most anonymous of all of them.


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