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Tankertrashnav 2nd Dec 2018 09:42

I never knew that about retaining Regiment flashes teeteringhead (we never called them mudguards in those days, btw). When I was in the Regiment I remember several officers who still wore pilots' wings, but I didnt realise the reverse could apply now. Quite a few ex-rocks flying at that time, including a Victor nav who retired as station commander at Marham.

charliegolf 2nd Dec 2018 11:18


Originally Posted by St Johns Wort (Post 10325991)
Pontius Navigator [QUOTE.]it is odd that some trades have trade badges and others don't. That aircrew, do and ground trades don't.

Except for Police, Regiment, PTIs Radio Techs, Medics, Dental trades and Bomb Disposal obviously.[/QUOTE]

Markspersons- don't forget markspersons!:E

CG

Pontius Navigator 2nd Dec 2018 11:32


Originally Posted by St Johns Wort (Post 10325991)
Pontius Navigator:it is odd that some trades have trade badges and others don't. That all aircrew, do and most ground trades don't.

SJW. Better?

MPN11 2nd Dec 2018 14:31

Some Other Ranks have Trade Badges.
Most Officers don’t, apart from Aircrew and the Medical/Religious.

Thus, in the Officers Mess, there’s no visual way of discerning who is Admin, Eng, ATC, FC, Supply, PEdO, Catering and a few others I may have missed. I always liked the old RN system of coloured bands between the gold rings ... Wasn’t it Green for Electrical Engineers, etc, and nothing for the Executive Branch (aka Ship-Drivers!).

downsizer 2nd Dec 2018 18:11


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 10326199)
Thus, in the Officers Mess, there’s no visual way of discerning who is Admin, Eng, ATC, FC, Supply, PEdO, Catering and a few others I may have missed.

How did you cope? All joking aside, I can't see the issue.

St Johns Wort 2nd Dec 2018 19:27

Pontius Navigator....................:ok:

and lets not forget 'The Marksmen'

SJW

Pontius Navigator 2nd Dec 2018 19:58

MPN, on a cruise ship, arguably very much full of electrics it is Green for Environmental Officer. Interesting how many of these on P&O wear Dolphins.

charliegolf 2nd Dec 2018 20:25


Originally Posted by St Johns Wort (Post 10326383)
Pontius Navigator....................:ok:

and lets not forget 'The Marksmen'

SJW

Oi! Pay attention Worty!

CG

SASless 2nd Dec 2018 20:45


When I was in the Regiment I remember several officers who still wore pilots' wings, but I didnt realise the reverse could apply now.
Wasn't there something said in the past about teaching a Monkey to fly......?

Pontius Navigator 3rd Dec 2018 09:10

With the demise of No 2 jackets trades badges are virtually redundant.

Are Marksman badges still awarded? What is the criterion now, do you still have to fire live rounds?

Interesting the difference between Army and Air Force with the former having 3 grades yet the Air Force only the top one. Do the Army still wear such badges on working dress?

Tankertrashnav 3rd Dec 2018 10:16

SASless - well they managed to teach me to be a nav! And how to fly a Cessna much later on, although at age 60 it took me rather more hours than would have been allowed at an RAF flying school :(

Union Jack 3rd Dec 2018 11:28


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 10326199)
Some Other Ranks have Trade Badges.
Most Officers don’t, apart from Aircrew and the Medical/Religious.

Thus, in the Officers Mess, there’s no visual way of discerning who is Admin, Eng, ATC, FC, Supply, PEdO, Catering and a few others I may have missed. I always liked the old RN system of coloured bands between the gold rings ... Wasn’t it Green for Electrical Engineers, etc, and nothing for the Executive Branch (aka Ship-Drivers!).

How interesting - One of the major reasons announced in Admiralty Fleet Order 1/56 for doing away with coloured cloth distinction between the rank stripes of Royal Navy officers, except for those considered non combatants under the Geneva Convention (namely Medical and Dental Officers and civilian officers required to wear uniform) was very specifically to encourage the concept of officers of all other specialisations being "All of One Company".

Jack

Pontius Navigator 3rd Dec 2018 16:04

Jack, P&O stick with purple for engineering, salmon for medical. I seem to remember Marconi men had a different rank emblem.
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Union Jack 3rd Dec 2018 17:03


Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator (Post 10326957)
Jack, P&O stick with purple for engineering, salmon for medical. I seem to remember Marconi men had a different rank emblem.
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Absolutely spot on, PN, in both your examples, for the simple reason that there are so many different variations between companies that they are indeed anything but "All of One Company". The one which really amuses me is he increasing tendency for cruise ship master to wear their four stripes with the lowest one somewhat wider than the three above, thereby making them "borderline" full Admirals!

Now back at OASC.....

Jack

WingsofRoffa 5th Dec 2018 15:33

Are any contributors here serving Rotary crewman or Pilots at Odiham/Benson?

downsizer 5th Dec 2018 16:21


Originally Posted by WingsofRoffa (Post 10328639)
Are any contributors here serving Rotary crewman or Pilots at Odiham/Benson?

Unlikely fella, this is a history forum! ;)

Pontius Navigator 5th Dec 2018 18:03

Yeah, the serving ones either don't have internet or are too busy

MPN11 5th Dec 2018 18:16


Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator (Post 10328794)
Yeah, the serving ones either don't have internet or are too busy

The Retired ones remember when a WSO was called an Air Gunner or a Bomb Aimer. ;)

heights good 10th Dec 2018 02:58


Originally Posted by downsizer (Post 10328683)
Unlikely fella, this is a history forum! ;)

What would you like to know?


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