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DirtyProp 8th Nov 2018 15:20

Norway's warship collides with tanker in fjord
 
Not strictly aviation material, but still...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46136564

Norway has evacuated all 137 crew from one of its warships after it collided in a fjord with a Maltese oil tanker.

Eight people were lightly injured in the collision in the Hjeltefjord near Bergen. The KNM Helge Ingstad frigate has been listing dangerously.

The warship had been returning from Nato military exercises. The tanker, the Sola TS, was slightly damaged and it appears that it did not spill oil.

The incident led to the shutdown of a major oil terminal and a gas plant.

MPN11 8th Nov 2018 15:47

Keep scrolling down that BBC report ... that is a very unhappy ship, and a Captain whose career has suffered similiar damage.

TowerDog 8th Nov 2018 15:51

Happened twice to US warships, must be something about grey ships, they just won’t keep their distance.

glad rag 8th Nov 2018 15:56

Can't see what your on about, has it been redacted now?

TowerDog 8th Nov 2018 16:00

Sad ending
 

MPN11 8th Nov 2018 16:02

It. Will. Buff. Out.


Sorry, not really a subject for humour .,, very sad all round.

From the earlier video, it seemed the tugs were shoving her into the shallows to facilitate subsequent recovery.

KenV 8th Nov 2018 16:12

Not a lot of detail here, but it seems like damage control must have been marginal if the ship has essentially sunk, albeit in very shallow water.

TowerDog 8th Nov 2018 16:40

Yes, the ship was pushed into shallow waters to prevent sinking.
AIS was turned off, not that it would have made a big difference as the tanker could hardly maneuver on short notice.
Some warships also turn off the navigation lights, should be outlawed in piece time.

M609 8th Nov 2018 18:15


Originally Posted by KenV (Post 10305532)
Not a lot of detail here, but it seems like damage control must have been marginal if the ship has essentially sunk, albeit in very shallow water.

Well, perhaps, or perhaps not......

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9ca8c02de7.jpg

Asturias56 8th Nov 2018 18:28

I think they only have 5 and 1 is maybe laid up or in deep maintenance

not funny when 20% of your Navy goes south...........

MPN11 8th Nov 2018 18:40

That has the look of being struck by the ‘blob’ on the bow of the tanker.

Perhaps there’s a serviceable dry dock somewhere nearby? ;)

SASless 8th Nov 2018 19:13


Not a lot of detail here, but it seems like damage control must have been marginal if the ship has essentially sunk, albeit in very shallow water.
Moving the ship into shallow water WAS the damage control.

That was a very good decision by someone who was certainly thinking on their feet in a very difficult situation.

Now it is a re-float and repair operation rather than marking a submerged wreck as a permanent hazard to navigation.

NutLoose 8th Nov 2018 21:32

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/world/article221338960.html


Reports are she lost her jet fuel through leakage and the propulsion is now under water as the stern sank, I wonder if she has her helicopter still on board, would you tend to shut the hangar door after wheeling it out prior to launching it? The other doors appear left open.

It would not surprise me if she gets scrapped, there is a lot of structural damage, power plant and a lot of electronics probably under water.

NutLoose 8th Nov 2018 21:37

Boom seems a bit none effective

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2018/11/norwegian-frigate-takes-water-after-collision

F-16GUY 8th Nov 2018 22:02


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 10305650)
That has the look of being struck by the ‘blob’ on the bow of the tanker.

Perhaps there’s a serviceable dry dock somewhere nearby? ;)

Nope! That one went down a week ago or so, with the pride of another countrys navy.....

https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...rier-woes.html

tdracer 8th Nov 2018 22:58

Most of the US ships sunk during the Pearl Harbor attack were refloated, repaired, and returned to duty before WW II was over - and they were in far worse shape than this one (the notable exceptions being the Arizona and Utah - which are still there as permanent memorials - and the Oklahoma which was refloated but somehow sank in deep water while being towed to the mainland to be scrapped).

Airbubba 9th Nov 2018 01:50

Video of the tugs pushing the ship to ground it in this article (Tower Dog can translate):

https://www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/y...jKhdrCmy4F6qVw

NutLoose 9th Nov 2018 02:10


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 10305907)
Most of the US ships sunk during the Pearl Harbor attack were refloated, repaired, and returned to duty before WW II was over - and they were in far worse shape than this one (the notable exceptions being the Arizona and Utah - which are still there as permanent memorials - and the Oklahoma which was refloated but somehow sank in deep water while being towed to the mainland to be scrapped).

I can understand that, but these will probably be crammed full of electronics simply to flush the bog.. I would imagine most of that will need replacing if submerged

212man 9th Nov 2018 06:11


Now it is a re-float and repair operation rather than marking a submerged wreck as a permanent hazard to navigation.
Probably would not be necessary - it's over 1200 ft deep!

ORAC 9th Nov 2018 06:47

Courtesy of Slartibartfast......


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