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chopper2004 22nd Oct 2018 18:16

Belgium selects F-35 over Typhoon
 

Belgium has selected the F-35 over the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Cheers

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/belg...et/?no_cache=1

MPN11 22nd Oct 2018 18:20

Brave Belgium. That will screw their Defence Budget.

Onceapilot 22nd Oct 2018 18:29

34 aircraft and four spare engines. I presume that there is actually a contract for ongoing engine overhaul and the four spares just act as the rotating buffer? I guess that is enough, if they accept lots of grounded aircraft in times of high aircraft utilisation, such as a war! :rolleyes:

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Pontius Navigator 22nd Oct 2018 18:32


Originally Posted by Onceapilot (Post 10289675)
I guess that is enough, if they accept lots of grounded aircraft in times of high aircraft utilisation, such as a war! :rolleyes:

OAP

There's an oxymoron in there somewhere. Anyway, best to play safe.

Onceapilot 22nd Oct 2018 18:44

It could be they need a few more of them? ;)

OAP

Rigga 22nd Oct 2018 18:48


Originally Posted by chopper2004 (Post 10289666)

Belgium has selected the F-35 over the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Cheers

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/belg...et/?no_cache=1

So did the UK!

Buster15 22nd Oct 2018 19:27

Difficult to see Typhoon getting many more orders.
Fantastic jet but very expensive and of course it isn't 5th Generation...

GlobalNav 23rd Oct 2018 02:45


Originally Posted by Onceapilot (Post 10289675)
34 aircraft and four spare engines. I presume that there is actually a contract for ongoing engine overhaul and the four spares just act as the rotating buffer? I guess that is enough, if they accept lots of grounded aircraft in times of high aircraft utilisation, such as a war! :rolleyes:

OAP

When was the last time Belgium went to war? When was the last time they had a difficult budget to pay for? Reality.

F-16GUY 23rd Oct 2018 04:10


Originally Posted by GlobalNav (Post 10289940)
When was the last time Belgium went to war? When was the last time they had a difficult budget to pay for? Reality.

December....

https://www.blogbeforeflight.net/201...sis-daesh.html

Pure Pursuit 23rd Oct 2018 06:50


Originally Posted by Buster15 (Post 10289733)
Difficult to see Typhoon getting many more orders.
Fantastic jet but very expensive and of course it isn't 5th Generation...

it’s not even 4.5....

I suspect tha the Qatar and Omani orders may well be the last. Shame we didn’t buy Super Hornets, far better in most respects with much more customer focussed support.

Pontius Navigator 23rd Oct 2018 08:00


Originally Posted by F-16GUY (Post 10289967)

Gift to satirists, you couldn't make it up.

Kleine-Brogel, Dec. 26, 2017 - Early this morning, four Belgian combat aircraft took off from an air base in the middle east for the last time. The fighter jets have taken the road back to Belgium after 18 months of operations over Syria and Iraq. This marks the end of the Desert Falcon mission for the F-16.
Maybe the ran out of engines and had to be towed.☺

melmothtw 23rd Oct 2018 09:04


Brave Belgium. That will screw their Defence Budget.
With these to be delivered in the mid-2020s at the earliest, the F-35A will be significantly cheaper to procure and operate than any of the competition by then,

SASless 23rd Oct 2018 12:32

One could follow the roads (IFR NAV) back to Belgium could they not?:E

Gericault 23rd Oct 2018 19:02

And Rafale?
 
Be interesting to see how this affects Rafale. Dassault struggling to sort the hugely reduced India order due, I’m led to believe by offset issues. And if Typhoon is allegedly gen 4.5, what can Dassault do to the French fleet to keep them part of the night one day one team that their politicians still seem to want when the entry level is F35? Heard a lot of French senior airmen saying stealth is irrelevant, but that could possibly be because they don’t have the capability. Guess we just need the Germans to tilt towards F35 and the European club is almost complete without France. A voir.....

glad rag 23rd Oct 2018 23:01


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 10290128)
With these to be delivered in the mid-2020s at the earliest, the F-35A will be significantly cheaper to procure and operate than any of the competition by then,

Well played, stops them getting the early build dross....

NutLoose 24th Oct 2018 11:16


Shame we didn’t buy Super Hornets, far better in most respects with much more customer focussed support.
And you could have lobbed them off a Carrier.. if only........

Jackonicko 24th Oct 2018 11:41

"Shame we didn’t buy Super Hornets, far better in most respects...."

How, exactly?

Not in terms of being able to defeat the perceived threat, which seems to be the key.....

Onceapilot 24th Oct 2018 11:51


Originally Posted by Jackonicko (Post 10291174)
"Shame we didn’t buy Super Hornets, far better in most respects...."

How, exactly?

Not in terms of being able to defeat the perceived threat, which seems to be the key.....

So, why the hell are we buying a gen 5 jet for floating about on a vulnerable gin palace at huge cost when the perceived threat is here? :hmm:

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pr00ne 24th Oct 2018 11:53

Onceapilot,

What perceived threat?

As we are buying BOTH Typhoon and F-35 surely we have all bases covered?

Onceapilot 24th Oct 2018 11:59


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10291186)
Onceapilot,

What perceived threat?

As we are buying BOTH Typhoon and F-35 surely we have all bases covered?

The argument that Europe needs gen 5 is the perceived threat bit.
The UK F-35 buy has been lynched by the Admirals and misguided Pollies for an inappropriate expeditionary warfare UK capability.

OAP


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