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Valiantone 8th Aug 2018 19:16

You know the MPs must be on holiday when...
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45084885

Splash1983 8th Aug 2018 19:59

Surely not co-incidental with the school holidays and the second homeowners turning up to their holiday cottages expecting peace and solitude like they get on Saturday and Sunday they rest of the year when UKLFS is shut!

Wensleydale 8th Aug 2018 20:27

They will have read that Linton is closing and the aircraft moving to Valley - got to get those compensation claims in early!!

Saintsman 9th Aug 2018 09:05

You could do low flying over the sea and someone would complain that the noise was scaring the fish...

MPN11 9th Aug 2018 09:13

Snowflakes in Wales in mid-Summer ... who would have thought that?

Bob Viking 9th Aug 2018 09:17

Mach loop
 
Having seen the spotter forums on FB I think the RIAT participants increased the traffic levels in the loop somewhat.

Some cracking photos out there.

BV


Tankertrashnav 9th Aug 2018 10:46


Alan Jones Evans, a councillor for Llanuwchllyn, Gwynedd, said: "The noise can be incredibly frightening for young children and the elderly.
I'd hazard a guess that most kids would love it it. As for the elderly - here's one old codger who wished we had some of this around here - all we get is boring old Merlins!

Wander00 9th Aug 2018 11:00

Jet noise, the sound of freedom

treadigraph 9th Aug 2018 11:32


I'd hazard a guess that most kids would love it it.
Aged about 9, I was playing in my grandmother's garden in Llwyngwril, on the coast a mile or two south of Barmouth, when a Phantom cracked overhead at about 0 feet and a zillion knots*. I was certainly startled but WOW! First fast jet I remember seeing...

*Actually might have been a Sea Vixen, memory sometimes sees it as a twin boom; probably closer to 1000' and perhaps 250kts...

Wycombe 9th Aug 2018 14:40


Roger Harris, a visitor to the Dyfi Valley area, recalled a time he heard the planes going over.
He said: "From nowhere there came this terrifying scream of a jet going across this narrow valley.
"It frightened the living daylights out of me. It was actually heart stopping and left me shaking and disorientated for a while."
Anyone else thinking - for Pete's sake grow some, pity we're not at war etc etc :-(

Pontius Navigator 9th Aug 2018 14:57


Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav (Post 10219077)
I'd hazard a guess that most kids would love it it. As for the elderly - here's one old codger who wished we had some of this around here - all we get is boring old Merlins!

We used to get Merlins too, some times one or two, or four, and not infrequently 6. A couple of years back, 8 even 😁

BEagle 9th Aug 2018 15:39

Sounds to me like the Viet Taff need reminding about the Sound of Freedom!

Lllanuwchllyn - bottom left of Bala Lake, so an obvious visual feature...

No doubt some local troublemaking councillor in Pant-y-Lynr or somewhere is trying to make a name for himself.

Although they sometimes have a point. Mink are nasty little sods and start killing each other when frightened. So a red spot appeared on the AFCENT LL chart near one of our Gnat navex routes and we were ordered to avoid it. But Jones-the-mink got angrier and angrier as he was still getting overflights...

One the next issue of the chart, the red spot had been replotted - our careful avoidance of the previously plotted location had ensured that we'd all flown directly overhead the mink farm...:uhoh:

GlobalNav 9th Aug 2018 16:19


Originally Posted by Wander00 (Post 10219089)
Jet noise, the sound of freedom

Yes and they can even “feel it in their bones.” They ought to be grateful that these men and women are willing to take such risks to defend home and hearth. I feel it in my bones too, and at my age it’s one of the best feelings in my bones.

Heathrow Harry 9th Aug 2018 16:24

Say we've heard their plea and are moving the whole lot to Lincolnshire...................

Tankertrashnav 9th Aug 2018 16:36

Reminds me off that Welsh farmer who painted "Sod off Biggles" (or something similar) on his shed roof, this making his farm a target for every aircraft within a 50 mile radius!

Yellow Sun 9th Aug 2018 18:12

Attention, Attention! This is the Bomber Controller for all bomb lists.
Translation: The earth is about to move.

YS:O

Dan Gerous 9th Aug 2018 18:32


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 10218993)
Having seen the spotter forums on FB I think the RIAT participants increased the traffic levels in the loop somewhat.

Some cracking photos out there.

BV


Yes nice pics indeed, but was that actual low flying training, or a series of photo ops?

Danny42C 9th Aug 2018 19:25

Wycombe (#10),

"It frightened the living daylights out of me. It was actually heart stopping and left me shaking and disorientated for a while."
But a Su-24 might frighten him a bit more !
,

Danny42C 9th Aug 2018 19:33

BEagle (#12),

ISTR our JPs at Leeming had a mink farm red-circled somewhere in N.Yorks.. The trouble there, I understand, was that it was the breeding season, and the noise put the male mink "off their stroke", so to speak, apparently..

Anybody at Leeming 1967-72 confirm ?

GeeRam 9th Aug 2018 19:47


Originally Posted by Wycombe (Post 10219265)
Anyone else thinking - for Pete's sake grow some, pity we're not at war etc etc :-(

Indeed.

But, this is the problem with an increasingly shrinking RAF/FAA, there is less and less low flying around the country so joe-pleblic become less exposed to it, so actually then complain more when they do get surprised, as it becomes an increasing rare occurance.


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