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Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 10206000)
is a reliable time-fuse not available, to allow the sub to retire quietly?
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Originally Posted by KenV
(Post 10206005)
If there's enough time for the sub to escape, there's enough time for the defenders to find and eliminate the torpedo.
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So....let's skip to the fine print shall we.
Russia nukes a Fleet Anchorage of the US Navy. We in response....do what? Wring our Hands and cry about it not being fair or something? Face it....any use of a Nuke and we shall be emptying Silos and Boomers of their contents straight back at them. The Russians are not stupid people. |
Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 10206021)
If they even know it’s arrived! And what time-line would be needed to discover, locate, comprehend threat, assemble EOD teams, work out how to get into it, unravel fuses and anti-handling devices .... the sub would be home in Vladivostok by then!! ;)
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SASless ... excuse me. WHO did that? Was it Russia, China, NoK, Iran ... who owns the fireball on that particular day? “Kill everybody!!” KenV ... glad there’s a 365/24 watch on all the Mil ports on our side of the new Cold Wall, even without a declaration of ‘intent’ ;) Remember Pearl Harbor? |
Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 10206043)
SASless ... excuse me. WHO did that? Was it Russia, China, NoK, Iran ... who owns the fireball on that particular day? “Kill everybody!!” KanV ... glad there’s a 365/24 watch on all the Mil ports on our side of the new Cold Wall ;) |
Apologies for updating my post! International tension would undoubtedly be a precursor to offensive action. Where that line is drawn depends on the sanity of Putin, Trump, an Ayatollah and a fat kid who inherited a country. |
My response to KenV got lost. While some torpedoes such as the lightweight ones can be noisy at high speed it does not follow that all torpedoes are noisy. There are also other means of detection.
Other issues are the self damage to the delivery vessel, how to navigate the torpedo to its target, being certain that the fleet is active in the target area. The delivery vessel would vulnerable to prior destruction unless use of the torpedo was the first enemy action. |
As if dolphins with freakin’ lasers weren’t enough, we now have to worry about torpedoes making pre-emptive nuclear strikes on our ports and anchorages to take out our carrier battle groups? Just wait until they can program UUVs tipped with nuclear warheads to navigate our sewer systems. No city will be safe. :hmm: |
Originally Posted by KenV
(Post 10206042)
Torpedos are noisy and easy to detect and track.
However it would be wise not to generalise on evidence from the past when considering the unknown present or even future. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval |
Why a Torpedo?
Why not just a sail boat or small fishing boat? Or...a humble Taxi used to haul Sailors from the Ship to the Whore Houses//Bars downtown.....errr.....to the Christian Reading Rooms downtown? |
Or bring it in with the diplomatic mail and leave it behind as you close down the Embassy and head home as tensions rise
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Against a floaty thing torpedoes have many advantages though not a few disadvantages. Against a land target and with a nuclear warhead they offer very few advantages and many disadvantages.
Of the first, they avoid SAM, Radars and AAA. However delivery is slow, the subject is vulnerable for days not minutes, and simple counter measures may counter a torpedo. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10207835)
Or bring it in with the diplomatic mail and leave it behind as you close down the Embassy and head home as tensions rise
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Yup ............ |
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