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rolling20 16th Apr 2018 13:10

I might just give up reading the Telegraph.
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ldren-private/

Training Risky 16th Apr 2018 13:18

Stick to real broadsheets, like the Times, or the Mail.

Wander00 16th Apr 2018 13:37

About as unbalanced report as it is possible to imagine. Expected better of the DT. But then I read the Times rather than DT

Heathrow Harry 16th Apr 2018 13:39

Well it's true I guess so why do you want to give up reading the paper....................

I doubt £ 270,000 goes very far at Eton mind you...................

Fareastdriver 16th Apr 2018 14:11

Of course most people that read the DT have only been to a couple of schools and then University. They didn't have to go to eight different schools at primary level like I did. The shortest time was one day when I was sent to a school at Solva in Wales where they only spoke Welsh.

When I went to senior school in England I had just come out of a different system because of my age I went into the third form and had to do fives years study in three.

Heathrow Harry 16th Apr 2018 14:18

It's one thing I've never heard anyone outside the forces ever complain about - they appreciate the issues of changing schools and most of them still think it's tough as your kids are boarding and you don't see them.......

Bob Viking 16th Apr 2018 14:41

Take heart...
 
Just read the comments. I got quite a long way down the list and didn’t find a single person who agreed with the article.

As an aside, if there is a holder of purse strings out there who thinks this would be a great way to save money they won’t need to hang around long to be the last one out who’s job it is to turn the lights off. There would be a stampede out of the military. At least in certain areas anyway.

BV

Cazalet33 16th Apr 2018 15:06

I might just give up reading the Telegraph.
 
Why?

Because they tell the truth?

It really is true that the taxpayers fund the perpetuation of 'the Officer Class' and its ethos. Why not?

We've served the empire/country rather well over the past century or two and we recreate to procreate to perpetuate.

Per Ardua ad nauseam etc (or Yeehah, as the West Point imitators of authenticity might say).

charliegolf 16th Apr 2018 15:20

FED:


They didn't have to go to eight different schools at primary level like I did.
Is that common in the modern RAF these days?

CG

Fareastdriver 16th Apr 2018 16:36

Interestingly my father was a pretty handy boxer and he taught me at a very early age. One found going from one school to the other that the school bully would pick on a new arrival.

Only once with me.

Basil 16th Apr 2018 16:49


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10120396)
Interestingly my father was a pretty handy boxer and he taught me at a very early age. One found going from one school to the other that the school bully would pick on a new arrival.

Only once with me.

Excellent!

Melchett01 16th Apr 2018 17:15


Originally Posted by Training Risky (Post 10120211)
Stick to real broadsheets, like the Times, or the Mail.

I used to really enjoy the Telegraph. It had some good journalists and they wrote considered pieces of work. Unfortunately, in recent years their journalists have been fired and replaced by reporters, some illiterate, most who can’t tell their arse from their elbow and a desire to pump out column inches for the sake of it. And don’t get me started on their comments section - most give the Daily Mail a run for its money in the angry bitter and twisted stakes, although playing spot the Russian troll is now an amusing past time.

I have to say I have in recent months found the Times to be a far better read. Less focus on churning out reporting and more considered journalism. That said, the Matt and Alex cartoons are still very much worth a read.

teeteringhead 16th Apr 2018 18:51


It really is true that the taxpayers fund the perpetuation of 'the Officer Class' and its ethos. Why not?
Used by all ranks.

Although I do recall an interview with Prescott on TV where he complained that it was "for officers' children only!"

Prat.

Melchett01 16th Apr 2018 19:36


Originally Posted by teeteringhead (Post 10120515)
Used by all ranks.

Although I do recall an interview with Prescott on TV where he complained that it was "for officers' children only!"

Prat.

TTN,

Alas, I fear such ignorance is the way of the world these days, made considerably worse by the internet and social media which serves so much information up on a plate that people effectively abrogate all responsibility for thinking even though much of what’s out there is nonsense.

It was a thought than ran through my own tiny brain over the weekend reading the nonsense people were spouting over the strikes in Syria. Then I suddenly realised these people also had the vote and to quote Fraser from Dad’s Army, I figured we’re all doomed!

Pontius Navigator 16th Apr 2018 20:31

Now I have no idea of they benefited from BSA or CEA, but it is true that a lot of children follow father's foot steps.

It is more obvious where the names are slightly unusual , I could cite a fair number but will just use one. Our AEO, (John?) Bassett said to our skipper, Malcolm Rough, "I was checking my logbook the other day, your father was a gunner on our crew" . He decided it was time to call it a day.

Heathrow Harry 16th Apr 2018 20:34

"Used by all ranks."

Indeed - i know several OR's who say its the only thing that has given their kids on a decentstart

rolling20 16th Apr 2018 20:40


Originally Posted by Cazalet33 (Post 10120308)
Why?

Because they tell the truth?

It really is true that the taxpayers fund the perpetuation of 'the Officer Class' and its ethos. Why not?

We've served the empire/country rather well over the past century or two and we recreate to procreate to perpetuate.

Per Ardua ad nauseam etc (or Yeehah, as the West Point imitators of authenticity might say).

1) it is hardly news is it? 2) The forces are under enough pressure as it is and this article isn't doing anything to alleviate that. 3) The journalism recently in my opinion has gone downhill somewhat.

Lima Juliet 16th Apr 2018 22:28

I’d just like to state that I pay for my kids to go to private school - no allowance from the military whatsoever. The reason? I didn’t want to have ‘boarding school handcuffs’ placed on me by the military - I wanted to be able to live where I liked and ‘bean steal’ if I wanted to.

I agree with BV, it is one of the best retention measures we have left!

reynoldsno1 16th Apr 2018 23:13


Interestingly my father was a pretty handy boxer and he taught me at a very early age. One found going from one school to the other that the school bully would pick on a new arrival.

Only once with me.
We might be brothers ...

beardy 17th Apr 2018 09:57

Rolling20

It may be news to some people.
This is an easily justifiable expense so should not put the forces under any pressure.
'Standard of journalism' is quite subjective, if you mean that you are now seeing printed pieces that make you uncomfortable then that is probably a good thing. As we age we tend to ossify our opinions, it is good to have them stirred and to step outside our comfort zone. Staying with one source of news will only reinforce your bias, try reading round the same topic in different publications.


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