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spekesoftly 5th Mar 2018 16:09


Originally Posted by Bergerie1 (Post 10073619)
Was the short cross runway designated 18/36?

Reaches again for 'Slim Red Job' (ERS BINA) Oct 1983.

Yes, Farnborough cross runway 18/36.

chevvron 5th Mar 2018 18:10


Originally Posted by kintyred (Post 10073585)
Thanks Chevvron. I think Odiham 28/10 changed too, but I'll not embarrass myself by hazarding a date this time!

About 2009 I think, just after I retired.

chevvron 5th Mar 2018 18:15


Originally Posted by spekesoftly (Post 10073649)
Reaches again for 'Slim Red Job' (ERS BINA) Oct 1983.

Yes, Farnborough cross runway 18/36.

Farnborough 18/36 was always that until it was closed as a runway in about '95; the surface was never very good (although I've known things like Varsities, 146s and Hercules use it) hence it was the first to go becoming a taxiway, much to the chagrin of the RAE Aero Club who used it at weekends for the Tiger Moth.

dragartist 5th Mar 2018 21:00

Just checked my little orange HMSO index book, Back in the 80s would phone Mrs Wright X5218 to arrange transport to Farnborough. She would call you back with timings for pick up at the Control Tower and return flights. The Chieften would pitch up and you get on without a word being exchanged. Unfortunately in a way this was after the Ah! de Havilland, Devon.

At the time I was designing some special signals kit for use on Snoopy and the M25 was being built. The drive was so tiresome.

I would get a lift over from Huntingdon with my Dad who worked in the Hangars, spend a bit of time looking over the strange modifications going on. Back in time for a cup of tea and early stack.

safetypee 5th Mar 2018 21:34

Bedford late 1970s
09/27
06/24
18/36 - inactive due to adjacent ‘hover pit’ for Harrier.
There was a secondary 24 runway displaced north; used for arrestor system trials and latter as HMS Bedford - full night lighting mock up of an aircraft carrier for Harrier night operations at sea.
The catapult was also aligned 24, again north of the arrestor runway, and as AFAIR the ski jump run up runway was parallel to the catapult overrun area.

There was a northerly sled track at some time but rarely used. Also a ‘rolling deck’ representation of ships motion for helicopter tests.
A helicopter manoeuvrability / agility test course was marked out between 06/24 and the arrestor 24 runway.

The defunct Naval Air Department - NAD, towards the northern boundary became RRE.

Bergerie1 6th Mar 2018 06:07

safetypee, I have sent you a PM

XR914 4th Sep 2020 12:15

HMS Kid
 
Do any of you chaps happen to know where "HMS Kid" was mown into the grass? I'm trying to work out where on the site this would have been, I'm pretty sure it was the northern side, but can't be sure. This was the pretend ship with a deck painted onto what looks like one of the taxiways for the MADGE trials.

Also, I don't suppose anyone has an airfield chart with ILS / DME information from any point in the 70's or 80's?

Thanks in advance.

chevvron 5th Sep 2020 07:50


Originally Posted by safetypee (Post 10074007)
Bedford late 1970s
09/27
06/24
18/36 - inactive due to adjacent ‘hover pit’ for Harrier.
There was a secondary 24 runway displaced north; used for arrestor system trials and latter as HMS Bedford - full night lighting mock up of an aircraft carrier for Harrier night operations at sea.
The catapult was also aligned 24, again north of the arrestor runway, and as AFAIR the ski jump run up runway was parallel to the catapult overrun area.

There was a northerly sled track at some time but rarely used. Also a ‘rolling deck’ representation of ships motion for helicopter tests.
A helicopter manoeuvrability / agility test course was marked out between 06/24 and the arrestor 24 runway.

The defunct Naval Air Department - NAD, towards the northern boundary became RRE.

The 'hover pit' was put in for the SC1 although the Harrier did use it later.
On a visit to Bedford in 1974 I was told that the Devons would still use 18/36 in a strong north or south wind in spite of the VTOL pit.
Twinwoods was still used occasionally by the ferry in those days.(At least it was still available according to the Farnborough FOB).

Jhieminga 5th Sep 2020 15:12


Originally Posted by XR914
Do any of you chaps happen to know where "HMS Kid" was mown into the grass? I'm trying to work out where on the site this would have been, I'm pretty sure it was the northern side, but can't be sure. This was the pretend ship with a deck painted onto what looks like one of the taxiways for the MADGE trials.

I guess you've got the same photo that is in 'Wings over Thurleigh' on page 186? I tried to find the answer in that book but no joy I'm afraid. You could ask the BAHG if someone from their team knows the answer: https://www.bahg.org.uk/

XN593 5th Sep 2020 16:26

XN914
 
Not quite what you were after but it might help. It is from the En Route Supplement effective 3 Jan 1974, corrected to 17 Dec 73.
Regardshttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....574557b9aa.jpg

Fitter2 6th Sep 2020 11:41


safetypee , 5th Mar 2018 22:34
Bedford late 1970s
09/27
06/24
18/36 - inactive due to adjacent ‘hover pit’ for Harrier.
In the '70s I operated from there in a Slingby T61 in support of the BAC-111 hush kit trials. First arrival in a 25Kt gusting due Northerly I asked to use 36; they agreed but "land beyond the 'hover pit'". I suggested I could land short of it (200 metres? available), and they said I could try, but don't cross the pit. Trickled in , touched down and stopped level with the far side of the taxiway edge,, no problem.


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