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Airbubba 27th Jan 2018 19:24

Mishap at Red Flag 18-1 at Nellis?
 
Runway 03L has been closed at Nellis AFB and there are reports of a possible fire and aircraft mishap:


M0071/18 NOTAMN
Q) ZLA/QXXXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/3614N11502W005 A) KLSV B) 1801271945 C) 1801272359
E) RWY 03L CLOSED

Airbubba 27th Jan 2018 20:02

There is some online chatter that the plane may have been a Growler. Sounds like everyone is OK. :ok:


Nellis Air Force Base
Public Affairs
4430 Grissom Ave., Ste. 107
Nellis AFB, NV 89191
Phone: (702) 652-2750; Fax (702) 652-9838
Nellis Air Force Base

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Release No. 18-01-27
Date: January 27, 2018

Aircraft incident on Nellis Air Force Base

NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE, Nev. – At approximately 10:45 a.m. this morning, a military aircraft experienced an incident during takeoff on the Nellis Air Force Base flight line.

Emergency services are on scene. No serious injuries are reported.

More information on the incident will be released as it becomes available.

Contact the 99th Air Base Wing Public Affairs office at 702-652-2750 for questions.

rjtjrt 27th Jan 2018 21:11

Now reports says it is an RAAF Growler. Crew said to be ok.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...howbiz+Feed%29

dead_pan 27th Jan 2018 21:27

Being reported on social media as an engine fire, the crew climbing out rather than ejecting

rjtjrt 27th Jan 2018 22:44

Facebook photo that is more detailed..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1

atakacs 27th Jan 2018 22:56

Well definitely an F-18. Hard to say what type but seems relatively benign.

flighthappens 27th Jan 2018 23:33


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10033641)
Well definitely an F-18. Hard to say what type but seems relatively benign.

From the photo on rjrjt’s link it’s clearly a Growler.

And it’s not benign, unless by benign you mean it’s going to be parked up for a loooong while The black stuff under the wings, rear fuselage and both fins gives it away!

TBM-Legend 28th Jan 2018 00:25

RAAF 6 Sqn EA-18G Growler aborted takeoff and off the side of the runway. No ejections. Crew exited aircraft OK....

Buster Hyman 28th Jan 2018 00:40

Good job to the crew & glad they are safe.

Airbubba 28th Jan 2018 01:26

This was the first overseas exercise deployment of the RAAF Growler. They sent four to Red Flag 18-1 which only has Australia, the UK and the U.S. as participants.

It appears that the RAAF Growlers have an A46-3XX registration but also have a U.S. Navy Bureau Number (e.g. BuNo 169153 on A46-306) as well.

TBM-Legend 28th Jan 2018 02:24

The BuNo is used for maintenance and other tracking as they're plugged in to the US Navy system..

Airbubba 28th Jan 2018 02:44


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10033704)
The BuNo is used for maintenance and other tracking as they're plugged in to the US Navy system..

Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. :ok:

Those ALQ-99 jammer pods with the RAT on the front date back over four decades, I didn't realize they were still in use. :eek:

gums 28th Jan 2018 17:16

Yeah, Bubba, "they" musta greatly improved those pods ince we saw them integrated on U.S. jets. Being the "dark world" of ECM, I would not expect to see details of any improvements, ya think?

Secondly, can't tell if they tried to use the hook. I had my A-7D hook skip the cable one rainy night and thankfully snagged the primitive one at the overrun that dragged out huge boat chain links, heh heh. Could be they were past the departure cable or thot they were too fast or..... Takeoff roll isn't that long, best I can tell. Then again, maybe they lost directional control and never got there. No mid-field cable either, but a very good overrun cable that's much better than than one I took.

Crying shame to lose that expensive beast, and this Red Flag looks like it's gonna be a ballbuster for "close" allies only.

Gums...

Airbubba 28th Jan 2018 18:07


Originally Posted by gums (Post 10034300)
Secondly, can't tell if they tried to use the hook.

Looks to me like the hook is down in the Facebook screen grab off the back of a DSLR camera posted above.


Originally Posted by gums (Post 10034300)
Crying shame to lose that expensive beast, and this Red Flag looks like it's gonna be a ballbuster for "close" allies only.

Seems odd to me that the Canadians aren't invited. Maybe they are all in Daytona Beach or at hockey games right now. Or perhaps they don't have much to offer for the electronic warfare and GPS jamming scenarios.

gums 28th Jan 2018 22:50

I also wonder about the Cannucks.

Flew with them and over them back when I was a nugget at Grand Forks. Ran into a few at Red Flag in early 80's when they flew F-5's.

I ask....... How many countries would allow nuclear-armed buffs from another country fly over their territory? Think Chrome Dome procedures back in the late 60's.

So I would rate them very "close".

Gums recalls...

Airbubba 28th Jan 2018 23:33


Originally Posted by gums (Post 10034560)
I ask....... How many countries would allow nuclear-armed buffs from another country fly over their territory? Think Chrome Dome procedures back in the late 60's.

So I would rate them very "close".

And starting about 1963, the Canadians 'borrowed' U.S. nukes and deployed them at home and in West Germany.

Officially Canada had no nukes because the 'special weapons' were property of the U.S. But they were deployed on CF-104's, and on CF-101's into the 1980's in the case of the Genie air-to-air rocket.

There was also some apparent maritime deployment but it is unclear to me whether it was just for training articles or for actual war shots.

gums 29th Jan 2018 01:56

Nuke ownership....

I never figured out all the fine points WRT the Genie rx and Canadian "rules".

Let's face it, the Voodoo had the Aim-4 IR doofers that went as a pair, and then the two Genie nukes. So we had three shots to thwart the Russian horde of buffs.

I never heard about the Canadian Zippers having the nuke capability. Hmmmm. But I was very young and clueless about many things back in 1966.

Those were very scary times, my friends. I am glad they remained scary and "back then".

TBM-Legend 29th Jan 2018 10:20

Amazing thread drift,,,,

meanwhile the RAAF EA-18G looks fixable...


OFBSLF 29th Jan 2018 13:34

Fixable? Really?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUsCDCOU0AEc01b.jpg:large

Airbubba 29th Jan 2018 14:16

There is a news report of 'minor injuries':


LAS VEGAS (KSNV) — 9:05 AM SUNDAY UPDATE:

The aircraft that had to abort its take off was an Royal Australian Air Force EA-18G. Five personnel suffered minor injuries. The crew was taking part in Exercise Red Flag, an operation that draws flight crews and aircraft from around the world to train at the expansive Nellis range.
Fighter jet appears to have crashed/burned at Nellis Air Force Base | KSNV


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