Originally Posted by Bob Viking
(Post 10099775)
BV PS. The soundtrack is an overlay by the way. Who knows when she asked the questions? Could have been at ML. Pity the noise cancellation seems to remove just about all background apart from some electronic breakthrough. OAP |
the description of Tornado GR1 being in it's operational element at 250' day VFR by Wg Cdr Heeps was lightweight. How about, Day/Night IMC 200', VFR 100' Strike/Attack. |
Originally Posted by Easy Street
(Post 10099956)
If it he had given dry technical stuff it would mostly have been binned.
IMO, he downplayed the Tornado capability and then, went on to point out that OLF might well be required by stealthy aircraft. Not a matter of being "dry", a gentle 250' navex should have been described as such. ;) OAP |
Just listened to the piece and I thought she did very well. I had a little shock when they mentioned that the Tornado will be out of service within a year. When I left the RAF in 1977 there were still two years before the aircraft (which was still called the MRCA) was to enter RAF service, so in my mind it is still a "new" aircraft. Just another function of getting old I suppose :(
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I remember when the Tornado had just entered service there were four or maybe six on the western ramp at Biggin Hill in connection with a fly past, presumably over London - first I'd seen other than development aircraft at Farnborough... Must have been summer 1980?
Less than 40 year's service life seems quite short compared with some other types! |
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The vast majority of those years were spent on Ops though. Right up until the bitter end.
Few other platforms can boast of a record like that. BV |
Add to which the blue on blue in Iraq when an RAF GR4 was shot down by a Patriot missile when returning to its base in Kuwait in 2003, highlighted its vulnerability.
Unlike Scotland, there are no mountains or deep valleys in the Baltic region to snuggle up to. It is as flat as a pancake. To be a successful ground attack a/c in that NATO region of special interest, it needs stealth. |
Originally Posted by roving
(Post 10100125)
Add to which the blue on blue in Iraq when an RAF GR4 was shot down by a Patriot missile when returning to its base in Kuwait in 2003, highlighted its vulnerability.
Unlike Scotland, there are no mountains or deep valleys in the Baltic region to snuggle up to. It is as flat as a pancake. To be a successful ground attack a/c in that NATO region of special interest, it needs stealth. |
Has anyone worked out what caused the “Jesus Mary and Joseph” moment? OC IX talks about the “ brakes “ but I couldn’t see any sign of the air brakes on the 360 deg film ( I know it may not be synchronised) and they are pretty mild in the Tornado anyway . I thought it was all good coverage for the Today listening public. Well done all-even the BBC.
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Originally Posted by Timelord
(Post 10100151)
Has anyone worked out what caused the “Jesus Mary and Joseph” moment? OC IX talks about the “ brakes “ but I couldn’t see any sign of the air brakes on the 360 deg film ( I know it may not be synchronised) and they are pretty mild in the Tornado anyway . I thought it was all good coverage for the Today listening public. Well done all-even the BBC.
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I’ll have another look. She definitely wouldn’t have liked the Buccaneer air brakes then!
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Originally Posted by Timelord
(Post 10100178)
I’ll have another look. She definitely wouldn’t have liked the Buccaneer air brakes then!
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Just watched the 18 minutes or so BBC video and I have to say she did far, far better than I would have done. A low level over Somerset in a 47 Sqn Herc proved too me that my ear canals are not suitable for such circumstances. Bravo to her for maintaining an intelligent conversation whilst enjoying the delights of the Mach Loop etc!
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Slight thread drift here but another bit of RAF history fades away
Edinburgh Airport's second runway closes - BBC News |
Just a quick question / point on the BBC RAF 100 yrs programme. As well as the “50 yrs in service” error with the chinook I questioned the 03 readiness state ? It might be memory fade over the years but I thought we went to readiness state 02 (ie 2 mins) from a readiness state 05 (ie 5 mins) as opposed to the 3 mins stated in the programme ? I thought it was Readiness State 15 - 05 - 02 - scramble . . . any old thoughts on that ?
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Originally Posted by roving
(Post 10099490)
The Tornado flight is to be described on BBC Radio 4 Today programme at some point before 9.00am.
add For those that can replay the BBC Radio 4 Today from about 8.10am there follows 18 minutes about the Tornado and then a detailed discussion with Air Marshall Atha about the projected role of the RAF in space, under the water, the P-8 Poseidon and F-35 Lightning. |
Well spotted!
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Originally Posted by A340Yumyum
(Post 10102160)
Air Marshal has one ‘l’.
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I'm surprised no one has posted this yet - performed by the Band of THE Royal Air Force.
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Idle Reverse,
That is what I remember as well. RS15 - 05 - 02 - "end off!!" Bill |
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