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Boeing Phantom Works unveiling on 19th?
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Well that's 2 minutes of my life I won't get back.Thanks.
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Boeing MQ-25 Stingray prototype.
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Latest gynaecology chair?
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Military aviation is becoming more like a car show. Will 2 very attractive young ladies in bikinis be pulling off the black chiffon ?
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Originally Posted by Fonsini
(Post 9992165)
Military aviation is becoming more like a car show. Will 2 very attractive young ladies in bikinis be pulling off the black chiffon ?
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"Will 2 very attractive young ladies in bikinis be pulling off the black chiffon?"
Not in corporate America in 2017. Or in December in St Louis. |
Navy MQ-25 Stingray would explain heavy nose gear.
https://news.usni.org/wp-content/upl.../unnamed-5.jpg |
Boeing build Phantoms??????????????
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Originally Posted by oxenos
(Post 9994136)
Boeing build Phantoms??????????????
They bought McDonnell (Douglas) and kept the "Phantom" moniker, and a logo similar to the F-4 Phantom masked bandit. Doubt it is as lean and mean as the original McD prototyping shop- the Lockheed Skunk Works has also blossomed in size, I am sure Kelly Johnson would be spinning in his grave if he saw the size and layers involved today. |
Originally Posted by oxenos
(Post 9994136)
Boeing build Phantoms??????????????
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Looks like ORAC and Keesje were correct - MQ25 Tanker
Boeing Shares Sneak Peek of Autonomous Aerial Refueler for MQ-25 Competition |
This will please BEagle. All future tanker pilots now redundant only 10 years after their Navs...
https://theaviationist.com/wp-conten...5_high-res.jpg ...after all, the aircraft only has to pitch up and fly race tracks in a predicatble fashion trailing its hose(s) - how hard can it be? :E:E http://www.animatedimages.org/data/m...image-0138.gif |
I believe the USN just released their final RFP for the MQ-25 back in October. Since they built a flight demonstrator before the RFP was released, Boeing must think they have a good chance to prevail in this effort.
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Why does it need a landing light?
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So it can scare itself during a night deck landing? :)
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One wonders whether ol' Bubba Boeing will have more luck getting this drone to work than he has so far with the KC-46A Pigosaurus...
While the Navy has been reluctant about the specific goals of the program, the service’s basic requirements will have the MQ-25 deliver about 6800 kg of fuel 500 nautical miles from the carrier. Presumably they'd launch at least 2 of the things together, with some non-bumping-into-each other system, in order to provide redundancy? |
All future tanker pilots now redundant only 10 years after their Navs. |
Interesting shape. Appears to have forward swept rear flying surfaces
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Now, if only they would do a “B” model, we could use them as well😏
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So will it do traps using the second wire every single time?
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I posted this elsewhere, but, in the interests of discussion will repeat here.
----- I think the idea is for the MQ-25 to disappear off downrange with the F18 so the F18 can carry more ordnance to just outside the contested environment, top up with fuel, go do war type stuff in the contested environment and then come back out to refuel and head home with the tanker. Therefore, the Tanker has to keep a very low profile to avoid becoming a target and a known point for the F18s to return to. I wonder, if you flew formation juuuust right with regard to the radar threat, you could actually decrease the RCS of the whole formation by using the MQ25 as a blocker/absorber. ETA, so it has a kind of spade nose with a bevelled lower body (with what looks to be a retractable camera)and a smoothed double bubble type of upper forward fuselage. The big bay (weapons or fuel or sensors?) door doesn't have low RCS edge features like we're used to seeing and there doesn't appear to be any turbulator vanes at the front of the bay to help with separation. In fact, given the panel gaps on the lower body and wing root joint it doesn't look like a very low RCS vehicle from underneath. |
Originally Posted by Dan Winterland
(Post 9995801)
Why does it need a landing light?
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Thank you Ken, for saving me the trouble on that one. I am pleased to see that the long standing problem of CV tanking assets is finally being addressed. About damned time.
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Be smart when its finished....
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Boeing have won the MQ-25A Stingray competition. Alert 5 » Boeing wins MQ-25A competition - Military Aviation News https://dod.defense.gov/News/Contrac...ticle/1617374/ The Boeing Co., St. Louis, Missouri, is awarded a ceiling price $805,318,853 fixed-price-incentive-firm-target contract to provide the design, development, fabrication, test, verification, certification, delivery, and support of four MQ-25A unmanned air vehicles, including integration into the carrier air wing to provide an initial operational capability to the Navy. The work will be performed in St. Louis, Missouri (45.5 percent); Indianapolis, Indiana (6.9 percent); Cedar Rapids, Iowa (3.1 percent); Quebec, Canada (3.1 percent); Palm Bay, Florida (2.3 percent); San Diego, California (1.5 percent); and various locations inside and outside the continental U.S. (37.6 percent), and is expected to be completed in August 2024. Fiscal 2018 research, development, test and evaluation (Navy) funds in the amount of $79,050,820 will be obligated at time of award, none of which will expire at the end of the current fiscal year. This contract was competitively procured via an electronic request for proposals; three offers were received. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Maryland, is the contracting activity (N00019-18-C-1012). |
So California gets to stir the hardner then...
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With an arial refuelling requirement, I'm surprised that Boeing have won this based on their recent history.
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With an arial refuelling requirement, I'm surprised that Boeing have won this based on their recent history. |
Originally Posted by Saintsman
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With an arial refuelling requirement, I'm surprised that Boeing have won this based on their recent history.
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Originally Posted by KenV
(Post 10241953)
Really? You see a technological connection between the KC-46 and MQ-25? And you see an engineering and industrial connection between Boeing's commercial aircraft operation in Seattle and Boeing's military aircraft operation in St Louis?
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"If it's Boeing, it's not going"....to be delivered on time or budget.
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Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 10242792)
"If it's Boeing, it's not going"....to be delivered on time or budget.
If you're going to start disqualifying manufacturers due their having a project that's late and/or overbudget, you'll have a awfully short list to choose from. |
Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 10242792)
"If it's Boeing, it's not going"....to be delivered on time or budget.
Boeing everyday for me I’m afraid. |
Three Wire is the target! |
Originally Posted by melmothtw
(Post 10242747)
So, 'One Boeing' only when it suits them then.
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Joy of joys. As well as ignoring all of the ACO procedures when a new carrier joins an operational theatre, the USN will now be able to do it with drones with no look out!
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Originally Posted by Wensleydale
(Post 10246079)
Joy of joys. As well as ignoring all of the ACO procedures when a new carrier joins an operational theatre, the USN will now be able to do it with drones with no look out!
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