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The Range 6th Dec 2017 21:30

Eurofighter Typhoon
 
Hi guys,

To you military guys:
How good is the Typhoon compared, let's say, to the F-16? I know the F-16 is much older, but I didn't know which other fighter aircraft to compare it to.

msbbarratt 6th Dec 2017 21:56

Millions of Possible Answers
 
The answer is, it depends.

Factors for consideration include: numbers of, armament, range, speed, service ceiling, availability, logistics chain, fuel economy, manufacturing time, field repair-ability, man hours servicing per flight, switch on to take off time, purchase price, noise, air show prowess, ejector seat water immersion certification, fatigue life, etc.

Or you could consult a pack of Top Trumps cards!

Rhino power 7th Dec 2017 01:40


Originally Posted by msbbarratt (Post 9981256)
ejector seat water immersion certification...

WTF?! Assuming the comment wasn't tongue in cheek that is... :ooh:

-RP

pasta 7th Dec 2017 07:08


Originally Posted by BigGreenGilbert (Post 9981578)
The answer is Tornado F3 by the way.

Tornado wins that one; carries twice as many people :E

CatchThePigeon 7th Dec 2017 07:12


Originally Posted by pasta (Post 9981635)
Tornado wins that one; carries twice as many people :E

Wouldn't they also have the higher average IQ?

reds & greens 7th Dec 2017 09:09

I was going to mention the Typhoon excess baggage capability, until someone brought up the 2-man crew of the F3...

Treble one 7th Dec 2017 09:19


Originally Posted by The Range (Post 9981226)
Hi guys,

To you military guys:
How good is the Typhoon compared, let's say, to the F-16? I know the F-16 is much older, but I didn't know which other fighter aircraft to compare it to.


Gripen and Rafale?

DIBO 7th Dec 2017 09:37


Originally Posted by The Range (Post 9981226)
I didn't know which other fighter aircraft to compare it to.

well, even staying within the weather phenomena, you'll find a plane to compare it with, the Gust aka Rafale. Or even Lightning, which comes in 2 variants: the one that people (used to) understand how it works, and the one that needs regular software security patches & bug fixes and an occasional reboot.

pasta 7th Dec 2017 10:32


Originally Posted by DIBO (Post 9981824)
well, even staying within the weather phenomena, you'll find a plane to compare it with, the Gust aka Rafale. Or even Lightning, which comes in 2 variants: the one that people (used to) understand how it works, and the one that needs regular software security patches & bug fixes and an occasional reboot.

Don't forget Hawker's variant of the Typhoon. Loses a bit in top speed and payload, but carries 4 times the number of guns, and much better rough field capability.

ian16th 7th Dec 2017 11:46


Originally Posted by pasta (Post 9981884)
Don't forget Hawker's variant of the Typhoon. Loses a bit in top speed and payload, but carries 4 times the number of guns, and much better rough field capability.

......and some bl**dy big rockets.

charliegolf 7th Dec 2017 12:09


Originally Posted by BigGreenGilbert (Post 9981578)
So you’re either about seven years old or a Russian troll.....

The answer is Tornado F3 by the way.

BGG

I usually try and give seven year-olds a sensible answer if I have one; or admit that I don't.

CG

PDR1 7th Dec 2017 12:46

If the answer is a Tornado F3 it must have been a very strange question...

PDR

Simplythebeast 7th Dec 2017 13:38

“ejector seat water immersion certification,”
Perhaps he was thinking of the Russian Typhoon.....

57mm 7th Dec 2017 13:38

Good job the answer wasn't Tornado F2 either......

McDuff 7th Dec 2017 17:07


Originally Posted by The Range (Post 9981226)
Hi guys,

To you military guys:
How good is the Typhoon compared, let's say, to the F-16? I know the F-16 is much older, but I didn't know which other fighter aircraft to compare it to.

I've flown the F16 and I loved its performance; but I understand that the Typhoon is superior in several ways, not least the excess power.

The Range 7th Dec 2017 17:19

Not a 7 yr. kid nor a Russian troll either. I just wanted to know how good is the Typhoon.

Buster15 7th Dec 2017 18:47


Originally Posted by The Range (Post 9982318)
Not a 7 yr. kid nor a Russian troll either. I just wanted to know how good is the Typhoon.

I am really surprised that there are not masses of responses to this post.
On the positive side the aircraft seems to do everything that it was designed to do, that primarily being air to air. It has big wings and two very powerful (as well as being highly reliable engines). It has also sold reasonably well given its high price. While there are some obvious benefits in multi national programmes there are some key drawbacks. It has taken far too long to be a true multi role fighter with the 4 nations having differing requirements and that has adversely affected sales prospects.
The primary difficulty is that it is not a 5th generation jet at the time that this is the current flavour of the month.
Having worked on the engine during the development programme I too am interested in comments on how good it really is...

Pure Pursuit 7th Dec 2017 18:49

It’s very good but, not as capable as a Super Hornet, significantly inferior to the F15C from a radar perspective too.

Great idea, not enough investment and Captor E will be 15 years too late.

glad rag 7th Dec 2017 20:42

"not as capable as a Super Hornet, "

That can't be right, 'poons pylons are nailed on straight.

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