“The DUP refuses to agree to a border between Northern Ireland and the rest of UK...” Not just DUP I hope!! Are we not all outraged at this prospect, raised as it was, by the Irish government as an opportunistic step towards their long-held goal of a United Ireland.

Christ Almighty Dougal......
 

Will you lot just go and find a pub and hash out this appalling debate in the good old-fashioned way? Drink some beer (not any of that lager pish or 'craft' beers) and blah away. You'll still end up at the same conclusion but at least you'll have supported the declining British brewing industry.

On topic, I'll fly DD anywhere if he wants because:
a) it's good training and shows the world we still have some sort of Air Force
b) it beats landing at the same few options we have left to train with in the UK
c) a bit of duty free always goes down well before Christmas.......

I don't think he did but I would.
Mrs Bas voted 'Remain'. We could have paired but didn't trust each other :E
She now accepts the vote and supports the UK side in our negotiations.

What is wrong with the Remoaners who seem determined to talk down our position? Is it so that we will fail and they can say "Told you so!"?

The EU negotiators follow UK media comment which gives comfort to their cause so, 'treasonous'? Yes, I'd agree.

Oh, yes, and while I'm on a roll ;)
I sent the following to our MP:

Like the majority, I voted in favour of Brexit and our Conservative Government chose to implement the result of that referendum.
The reports which appear in the news media now appear to present a picture of confusion and disloyalty.
For instance, those who voted against setting a date for exit on the premise that it would somehow circumscribe the negotiating position of HMG seem to me to have missed the fact that setting such a date places pressure upon the EU negotiators but, if wished in the future, Parliament has the authority to alter it as required.

In general, I think most voters like to see a cabinet decision made and MPs then giving it their support.

I recollect loyalty being a pre-requisite for young Royal Air Force officers when I served and it is disappointing to read of the difficulties of government and negotiation made more arduous by what appears to me to be quibbling over relatively minor clauses.

***yawn***Perhaps the most pompous post I will read today, but probably not.

And yes, we all know about your wife and her Road to Damascus conversion, Basil. You have told us about it several times already.

Well, Chaps and chapesses, that has made for a mind-numbing 10 minutes or so of expletive-ridden (under my breath) reading. First thought is ... pettiness, in all its forms; second thought ... dear old Doctor Sam was sooooo right in his observation "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel"
While in no way a universal attribute, commonsense appears to have abdicated in favour of Yah-Boo 'debate'. Time was that "an Englishman's word was as good as a bond". Now it seems that it is good for as long as we can profit over others and if we can sneer, denigrate or otherwise disrespect our contemporaries we should do so for political advantage. Normally find Beagle's views irritating , to say the least, but the car dealer analogy has a certain element of relevance ... now I'm at it!:uhoh: Time to retreat to rural peace and let the political children make yet another mess in their playpen:mad:

Ah, can dish it out but can't take it, eh?