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Wander00 18th Nov 2017 14:53

Capt Eric "Winkle" Brown
 
Documentary BBC4 Thursday night 23 November. Not a repeat (it does not say it is anyway)




Sorry about small "c" - predictive text changed it and I did not notice. Mods - any chance of correcting please

spekesoftly 18th Nov 2017 15:32

According to the Radio Times it is a repeat, but well worth viewing again.

Wander00 18th Nov 2017 18:55

It is at10 pm UK time, will look again but did not see an "R" for repeat by the listing. Matron, bring my better glasses please

spekesoftly 18th Nov 2017 19:12

And if you miss the 10pm slot, it's being shown again on BBC4 at 2am on Friday morning.

Wander00 18th Nov 2017 21:24

That is what I thought the "R" was to do with. Silly me. Still one of the nicest people I ever met

Nigerian Expat Outlaw 18th Nov 2017 21:27

Just looked it up to set a record on my Sky box and the synopsis states he was an FAA pilot ? WTF ?

NEO

Tony Mabelis 18th Nov 2017 21:35

He was a Fleet Air Arm pilot.
Tony

glad rag 19th Nov 2017 08:14


Originally Posted by Wander00 (Post 9961386)
Documentary BBC4 Thursday night 23 November. Not a repeat (it does not say it is anyway)




Sorry about small "c" - predictive text changed it and I did not notice. Mods - any chance of correcting please

How are you watching the BBC in France? It is nationally restricted. I do hope you are not admitting to illegally circumventing those restrictions.
As a legitimate licence payer (not by choice) I really despise liscence cheats almost as much as I despise paying the bbc...

izod tester 19th Nov 2017 09:44

When I was working in Brussels in the 1980s BBC 1 and 2 were provided along with French, Dutch, German and Italian channels on the cable TV. So far as I know, the cable TV company received them off the air from receivers on the Belgian Coast. How do you know that Wander00 does not have a UK TV license anyway - he may well have a pied a terre in UK.

roving 19th Nov 2017 10:08


Originally Posted by glad rag (Post 9961964)
How are you watching the BBC in France? It is nationally restricted. I do hope you are not admitting to illegally circumventing those restrictions.
As a legitimate licence payer (not by choice) I really despise liscence cheats almost as much as I despise paying the bbc...

Do you really think anyone cares a fig for your opinion?

FODPlod 19th Nov 2017 21:27

First aired 1 June 2014 but definitely worth watching again.

pasta 26th Nov 2017 11:36

I watched this last night on iPlayer. Lovely documentary; it's a bit like reading his book, but with added film footage...

just another jocky 26th Nov 2017 17:41

I recorded and watched it. Fascinating to see that it was him being interviewed but there was sooooooo much missed out, like why he was one of the first allied soldiers into Bergen-Belsen and interviewing the commandant and they really glossed over his touring of Germany immediately post cessation of hostilities to try to find and fly as many German aircraft as possible.


Still, you have to expect some editing out of important stuff when trying to cover the life of someone like Winkle in just one hour.

glad rag 26th Nov 2017 17:51


Originally Posted by roving (Post 9962072)
Do you really think anyone cares a fig for your opinion?

As a "retired barrister" I find your take.. amusing.

Treble one 26th Nov 2017 18:36


Originally Posted by Nigerian Expat Outlaw (Post 9961707)
Just looked it up to set a record on my Sky box and the synopsis states he was an FAA pilot ? WTF ?

NEO


NEO, Capt Brown learned to fly on a UAS-there is a very famous photo of him in RAF (VR)? Uniform with RAF wings-however after returning a trip to Germany prior to the declaration of war, there were no vacancies in the RAF-hence he joined the FAA.

glad rag 26th Nov 2017 20:13


Originally Posted by Treble one (Post 9969880)
NE, Capt Brown learned to fly on a UAS-there is a very famous photo of him in RAF (VR)? Uniform with RAF wings-however after returning a trip to Germany prior to the declaration of war, there were no vacancies in the RAF-hence he joined the FAA.

His pre war escapades were amazing.

amontgomery 25th Jan 2018 20:22

Winkle Brown
 
Edinburgh University Air Squadron Association (a charity) are placing a statue of "Winkle" at Edinburgh Airport and this should be in place mid July. Plan also is to support a flight scholarship programme for less advantaged youngsters. Google EUAS Association for more information.


Monty

spannermonkey 27th Jan 2018 03:32

Had the privileged of attending a dining-in night around 2007 when he was the top table guest of honour. Quite an amazing individual and very humbling to listen to his tales.

Fonsini 28th Jan 2018 18:26

I watched the documentary where he ran through his life story and I was quite literally wide eyed. He met and was then introduced to flying by Ernst Udet (no less), visited Berlin as a youngster in 1936 and attended the Olympics, was aboard a carrier which was sunk, was then the only survivor out of an entire lifeboat of men who sadly died of hypothermia, crashed a vampire and kept his legs by virtue of being so short he could pull them up out of the rudder wells (which were ripped away in the crash), interviewed Goering while imprisoned - the list goes on and on, his life reads like a Boy’s Own adventure. Truly an extraordinary man.

This is from memory, please excuse any embellishments.

Cazalet33 28th Jan 2018 19:32

He flew over 2,400 carrier deck landings, including the first jet landing etc. The USN, forever trying to catch up with the navy which invented such things as mirror landing lights; angled decks; steam cats etc) tasked some poor sod to try to match the world record. The poor wretch managed only 1,600 before suffering a nervous breakdown.

The list of aircraft types he flew as PIC is astonishing in its breadth, length and depth:

Aeronca Grasshopper
Aerospatiale Alouette
Aerospatiale Ecureuil
Aerospatiale Twin Squirrel
Agusta 109
Aichi Val
Airspeed Ambassador
Airspeed Envoy
Airspeed Horsa
Airspeed Oxford
Arado 96B
Arado 196A
Arado 199
Arado 232B
Arado 234B - Blitz
Arado 240
Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle
Armstrong Whitworth Whitley
Auster Aiglet
Avro Anson
Avro Athena
Avro Lancaster
Avro Lancastrian
Avro Lincoln
Avro Manchester
Avro Shackleton
Avro Tudor
Avro Tutor
Avro York
B.A. Swallow
BAe 125
BAe 146
BAe Hawk
BAC Lightning
Baynes Carrier Wing
Beagle B.206
Beagle Pup
Beech Baron
Beech Bonanza
Beech Super King Air
Beech Traveller
Beechcraft Expediter
Bell AH-1 Huey
Bell 47
Bell 204
Bell 222
Bell Airacobra
Bell Airacomet
Bell HTL-5
Bell Jet Ranger
Bell King Cobra
Bell Long Ranger
Blackburn Beverley
Blackburn Botha
Blackburn Buccaneer
Blackburn Firebrand
Blackburn Firecrest
Blackburn Roc
Blackburn Shark
Blackburn Skua
Blohm & Voss 138
Blohm & Voss 141B
Blohm & Voss 222 Wiking
Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress
Boeing B-29 Superfortress
Boeing Vertol Chinook
Boulton Paul Defiant
Boulton Paul P.108
Boulton Paul Sea Balliol
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