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CloudHound 13th Nov 2017 16:53

HRH Prince Philip
 
Am I alone in being shocked at his demeanour on the F&CO balcony yesterday?

It seemed as if the TV cameras were not showing close ups on the programme I watched. I felt really sorry for him and HMQ and it takes quite something for me to say that.

Yes, we all age and he has had a great run but I felt uncomfortable thinking duty called for someone who appeared that unwell.

Fonsini 13th Nov 2017 17:26

He has been quite the lad, we heard some interesting tales about his exploits during my time with HM Gov. Sad to see him in decline, but it comes to us all eventually.

MPN11 13th Nov 2017 18:02

Agree HRH looked somewhat weary, as is to be expected at his age.

However, HM's gimlet eyes followed proceedings intently. :)

unmanned_droid 13th Nov 2017 18:47

I suspect he didn't need to be asked to be there. However, it looks like a sit down wouldn't do him any harm.

Dougie M 13th Nov 2017 19:00

I believe that Prince Philip was asked if he would like to sit down during the remembrance service but as long as he has strength he will escort the Queen at all times when required. His "demeanour" was impeccable for this redoubtable gentleman and he deserves respect for his unflinching support.

Davef68 13th Nov 2017 19:35

Attendance yesterday, and on Saturday night, was his own choice.

Hydromet 13th Nov 2017 19:54

Saw close-ups on TV here. He appeared tired but, as always, dignified.

sharpend 13th Nov 2017 20:04

I have tremendous respect for the man. What guts and determination. He is an incredibly asset to the Monarchy.

NutLoose 13th Nov 2017 20:14

Both of them are, they amaze me how active they both are when you consider their ages, they put to shame people a lot younger, and long may they continue too, with all the back biting, bitching and what's in it for me you see the world over, it is a privilege to have the pair of them rule over us, serving the country with unswerving dedication long past the time most would have retired and hung up their crowns.

Heathrow Harry 13th Nov 2017 20:35

He really shouldn't have been there - he looked absolutely knackered (been there done that, got the T-shirt) - presumably having been up late at the Albert Hall the night before as well

He really has nothing to prove and should allow himself to fade quietly into the background - he's done his bit and more

Cazalet33 13th Nov 2017 21:08

He seemed to have recognised what his in-laws would do to him if he was a much loved horse.

Jimlad1 13th Nov 2017 21:13


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9956215)
He really shouldn't have been there - he looked absolutely knackered (been there done that, got the T-shirt) - presumably having been up late at the Albert Hall the night before as well

He really has nothing to prove and should allow himself to fade quietly into the background - he's done his bit and more

By the same logic, do you think all WW2 veterans should do the same? HRH served in some very nasty battles, and I suspect probably has a fair few personal demons from his time in the war. It is absolutely correct for him to be there if he chooses to remember in this way.

tescoapp 14th Nov 2017 06:31

If he is anything like my granddads mates who over the years I have transported to the local event and home afterwards the only way of stopping them is to lock them up in a cell.

In fact it was deemed the "great escape" from various nursing homes in the final years of them living. Thankfully the booze consumption dropped off as time went on and 3 o clock with a cup of tea and a CD of war time hits and a small nip of whisky which was rarely finished saw them all fast asleep. I seem to remember more than a few didn't last long after the event.
A couple it was the only time they went out side in their final years.

I and the rest of the youngsters were of the opinion that they weren't going to live for ever and if they got a cold and it did for them such is life. At least they did something important for them. Seeing all their mates and remembering the ones that died next to them was more important than xmas with the family to be honest.

Heathrow Harry 14th Nov 2017 10:27

Jimlad

No I don't believe all old soldiers should give up - but he was clearly suffering - at one point it looked as if he was using the wall to keep himself standing.

He's done his bit, both in the War and since - there is a time to recognise your physical limitations. I'd raterh he did that and lived a bit longer than attended and used up his physical reserves. It is tho' as you say his choice.

BEagle 14th Nov 2017 10:49

Yes, Stavros was looking rather weary, it cannot be denied. But woe betide anyone, except Her Majesty, who might suggest that he takes things more easily!

Icare9 14th Nov 2017 11:43

I get the impression that he'd be happier dying "in harness" next to HRH than quietly in some bedroom (unless with a bevy of starlets).
I wouldn't be surprised though if in the background efforts are made to make his appearances as comfortable as possible. Not quite a Popemobile but some shortening of length of appearances, and any other aids so he can continue with dignity, even if whisked away after 5 minutes or so.
Some days I feel like ****e, and I'm almost 2 generations younger!
Personally I'm proud that he has been so stalwart (as has Ma'am) reliable and dependable. Don't let the cameras zoom in or for too long, please, we don't want frailty exposed in anyone.

taxydual 14th Nov 2017 13:27

Don't write the bugger off yet. There's life in the old dog!!

Prince Philip is spotted driving a horse and carriage | Daily Mail Online

Wander00 14th Nov 2017 13:44

My comment to SWMBO was "Get him a chair", but admire him enormously. Met him twice. The second was at the Princess Royal's 50th birthday bash at Windsor. (She is Patron of the "Royal" Yacht Club of which I was Secretary). HRH approaches group I was in and people start to introduce myself. I was next when Prince Philip say " I know you, we met at RAF Wyton". That had been several years earlier, and my comment to an equerry "That was a good brief" met with the response - "No brief, he never forgets a face". maybe something to do with having taken him to the Nursery School first. Did not know rug rabbits were not his favourite, but then only had 5 days notice of the visit. Remember when the Royals were getting flak about not supporting our boys in the Gulf

tescoapp 14th Nov 2017 14:12

Suspect there was a chair perhaps multiple chairs available but all concerned knew that his response would involve sex and travel and it being in the front page of several rags after it occurred.

Molemot 14th Nov 2017 15:22

I was on the helm of one of the boats in the River Pageant back in 2012. I have never been so cold and wet in my life...as we passed the Queen and her Consort, it occurred to me that if one ever needed a definition of "service above self" then that had to be it.


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