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ICM 10th Nov 2017 18:11

Not at all sure about that. Isn't it the Airtanker consortium that leases the aircraft to users, including the RAF?

Wander00 15th Nov 2017 18:13

Apparently new SofS made some comment about "services should properly reflect current society". Lovely letter in DT (just seen it reprinted in the Week that has just arrived) from Lt Col Ewen Southby-Tailyour, a just famous Royal Marine. He offers a counter view that RM (and by implication the other services) should not reflect nor be regarded as an all inclusive employer. He then lists classes and groups of people the Royal Marines would not employ, whilst employing those they can train to fight, withstand arduous conditions and if necessary kill with their bare hands. e trusts that such training and skills are not representative of modern society. I think he may be right and the SoS wrong. Or just maybe I am a dinosaur.

Melchett01 15th Nov 2017 18:24


Originally Posted by Wander00 (Post 9958092)
Apparently new SofS made some comment about "services should properly reflect current society". Lovely letter in DT (just seen it reprinted in the Week that has just arrived) from Lt Col Ewen Southby-Tailyour, a just famous Royal Marine. He offers a counter view that RM (and by implication the other services) should not reflect nor be regarded as an all inclusive employer. He then lists classes and groups of people the Royal Marines would not employ, whilst employing those they can train to fight, withstand arduous conditions and if necessary kill with their bare hands. e trusts that such training and skills are not representative of modern society. I think he may be right and the SoS wrong. Or just maybe I am a dinosaur.

No, I think you're right Wander00. It probably should, but leadership and command and ordering people to take life and risk their own is not a common characteristic across society. Unfortunately that isn't a viewpoint that tallies with the current views in many (not all) elements of society - revisionist, social media driven, popular authoritarianism with self-centred snowflake tendencies. Frankly I think society would be better if it came up to our level than we descended to its.

Controversial, I know. Donning tin hat and retreating to my 'safe space'!

ORAC 15th Nov 2017 18:27


The Royal Marine is a regular contributor to the Daily Telegraph Letters columns. Address Ermington, not known to my chum on the Ermington Parish Council. Did I not know better, I might think the Royal Marine to be a 'plant.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewen_Southby-Tailyour

https://keyassets.timeincuk.net/insp...Rfasttrack.jpg

Wander00 15th Nov 2017 18:31

And ISTR provided information of inestimable value to the Falklands Campaign following previous visits by sailing yacht

Pontius Navigator 15th Nov 2017 19:10

ORAC, my claim to fame was to be sitting behind him on 2 April 1982 when he was called out of a lecture at Senate House. A number of others were also called back to their offices as well.

jindabyne 15th Nov 2017 19:31

WanderOO,

I agree strongly. You are by no means a dinosaur!


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