Whatever......:rolleyes:

Bloody good point, well presented! :ok: <doh.gif>

Bose-x,

I take it you’ve handed your notice in then if it’s that bad?!

And what is the story on the height limit in the Prefect? I saw one picture which looked most uncomfortable for the pilot, although I suppose he could have been 8 feet tall.

and what you are achieving with 14 posts since 2013 is to show a secondary pprune account brought into play to attack a poster your primary account has already lost the argument to.

Nope, wrong. This is my one and only account and I have been registered under successive accounts since 1999. (First one was Reluctant Staff Officer, ah those were the days.)

My only usual contribution to PPRuNe is to read and think, not write. I wrote on this one to call out bose-x for naming an individual.

I have zero knowledge of the new training system. I left over a decade ago and had no part in training even when I was in. Sorry to disappoint your conspiracy theory but at least it confirms your character type for us all.

I note that the Phenom now has its Certificate of Release and will be transferred to the military register.

Presumably RAF pilots will then teach themselves to fly it.....:\

It’s what they are doing now in the sim. What should have happened is the civilian pilots should have done the full the type ratings at CAE, done the 6 take off and landings and got the rating on the their licences. They should then have done hours building on type to be competent to teach. Once cleared to teach in accordance with their licence requirements run the first course for the military that the military have paid for and thus qualified the military pilots.

What you have instead is a bunch of unqualified guys sat in an office in Cranwell teaching themselves to fly the aircraft while writing the course materials and playing in the sim for two slots a day “testing” it out. Anyone see a problem with that concept......... And they wonder why people are playing their faces and even resigning.....

Bruised Crab - methinks the lady doth protest too much.............

Think what you like, it’s the internet. I won’t bother posting my thoughts on you.

bose-x, whether civilian or military, surely someone should have completed the normal TR course?

Now that the aircraft is on the military register, it shouldn't take too long for RAF QFIs to work-up on the aircraft?

No matter what the registration of the aircraft, I still consider that a civilian pilot providing instruction on Type should hold a valid professional licence, including a TR, IR and FI/TRI certificate for the Type.

As do I......

That might well be ONE of the problems at Valley.

oh, you have thoughts on me....how sweet:)

Where is Al Shinner when you need him?
 

I'm sure that if the head of training at Ascent wanted his views known, he could come on here and share them.

Perhaps a frank and open discussion might be the way to allay the fears of the tax paying public on this matter.

I'm confident that a public post on here from a SQEP in Ascent would be better for the company than the continuing allegations of the troops having been gagged. Maybe a company spokesperson might either deny such a gagging order was given, or justify it.

I fully accept that they might not have much time for this, after all they do seem to be busy trying to start running training command (as was) but "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" and all that.

When the contractors refuse to engage with the paying customer, then the customer might need to ask their elected representatives to ask some pointed questions.

To use a QFI expression, a little correction early, is better than needing a big change later on.

AP,
The problem with your remarks is that a few old geezers on Pprune, speculating about any company's future methods of achievement, does not amount to 'the tax paying public' and would not, in my view, warrant their attention at all, let alone any senior management engagement.
To get their attention, some more formal complaint has to be raised...and all that is here is speculation.

Ah well, that's the thing.

If a few old has beens and wannabees, discussing this on 'tinterweb is not important, why would the company prohibit the troops from engaging?

Why the threat of dismissal for engaging?

Perhaps we need to wait for someone at the coalface to get fired / win the lottery / develop a conscience, and spill the beans.

I think I already did.

Briefing employees about commercial security within an organisation, and not to broadcast any unauthorised news about that organisation in an uncontrolled manner, including the threat of punitive actions and dismissal, is a normal commercial practice.

It is sometimes emphasised to employees if there are obvious public events or occasions where the company wants to control press reporting about contentious subjects or new developments happening - where contentious can mean redundancy talks, etc. as well as discussing company/trade secrets or processes outside the premises. So 'gagging' instructions are not abnormal and are most often commercially driven.

This is why you only read of ex-employees (from waitresses to Chiefs of Staff) mouthing off about how their old company was really rubbish (and often just after getting their 'K')

Spot on. However, do you think it is a different case here because, firstly, it is public money involved, NOT Ascents, and secondly, the Mil are working hand in glove with Ascent and they are not bound by anything Ascent say.

Also, all of us Ascent people, mil people, or those working for other contractors are mates. We're (almost) all ex-forces, and we have known each other for years. It is ridiculous to think people won't talk. This is exacerbated by the fact that we are all very knowledgeable and know when something is wrong and won't sit back and let it happen.

There is a saying that 'all that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing'. Now, before I get lambasted, I am not calling Ascent evil!, but the sentiment is true though. Most of Ascents plans are good. Infra is coming along. Courseware is a work in progress but will get there.

Some of their plans, though, are ridiculous, doomed to failure, and the students will be the ones who suffer.

We will talk, because people won't listen.