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newt 13th Sep 2017 16:37

Boys, just take a look at the top brass at the museum!!!!!! Says it all!!!👿

Tankertrashnav 13th Sep 2017 16:58

So, reading the list I see we have a black man (sorry, man of colour), a gay man, a woman, a disabled man, - what a flipping contrived list. They missed a trick though in leaving Paddy Finucane off the list - they could have got the Irish in as well!

God save us :ugh:

BEagle 13th Sep 2017 18:24

Indeed, utter diversity tokenism....:yuk:

Royalistflyer 13th Sep 2017 19:14

I could only see two Trustees who had ever flown an aeroplane in the Service. None in senior management. I think only
three in either of the above who'd served in the Service at all

Shack37 13th Sep 2017 20:30

Why donīt we start a campaign voting in favor of "Rockfist Rogan"


How we larfed when he won:E

Bill Macgillivray 13th Sep 2017 20:49

I did quite enjoy a visit to the museum but I can think of no reason to continue! I have never come across such a crass idea in my life and I have seen a few! (Ideas, that is!)

Bill

Archimedes 13th Sep 2017 21:20


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 9890866)
Indeed, utter diversity tokenism....:yuk:

And the worst thing is that 'Widge' Gleed almost certainly deserves to be considered as a representative Spitfire V pilot on the basis of his record, but his selection for this exercise now looks to be more about his personal life than his achievements. The whiff of political correctness means that interesting candidates such as Screwball Beurling, Ian Blair et al, may be overlooked (the voting seems to be going that way). I dare say that there will be attempts at rigging the vote as well, with possible campaigns on social media, to get a particular individual to the top of the list. Since the vote is currently set up so that you can click on the link in the original post, open that page in a new tab, vote, close the page, click on the link in the original post, open that page in a new tab, vote for the same person you just voted for, close the page, click on the link in the ori... Put another way, three Ppruners with time on their hands and a high boredom threshold could put Ian Blair (say) on 1000 votes long before midnight were they so minded.

Also, beyond the curators, it appears that those nominating the candidates have been chosen because based on their area of expertise/authorship, they would nominate a gay man (Stephen Bourne), or a Jamaican (Mark Collins), or... Conspicuous by absence are any recognised historians of the RAF - Stephen Bungay, Dilip Sarkar, Philip Sabin, Tony Mason, Richard Overy (or even Max Hastings or Dan Snow). While the historians might have come up with a list of three (although I suspect not), even that risk would be militated by the curators' choices.


And all of that, of course, is without pondering the wisdom of the RAFM attempting to turn itself into some sort of museum version of Great British Dancing on Ice Bake Off Factor, or the slightly tacky 'reward' for the winner of the vote of being memorialised in cardboard. If that is to be the fate of those nominated, it would seem rather better - but entirely out of keeping with the dumbed-down approach to museum curating these days - to provide a series of information boards about all of them, showing the range of pilots the Spit had during the war, and fulfilling the intention far more effectively than this piece of crassness...

Edit - you can even vote for more than one person at a time on the Telegraph webpage!

Haraka 14th Sep 2017 09:01

More proof metaphorically, if it was needed, that the monkeys having been running the zoo for quite some time now.

Blacksheep 14th Sep 2017 10:41

Why just a Spitfire? Why a Mk.V and not a Mk.1A? Why not a Hurricane?

How about The People's Beverley Pilot?

How about The People's Air Electronics Operator?

or, The People's Aircraft Fitter (Airframe)?

It's all a load of Bollocks.

The Oberon 14th Sep 2017 10:53


Originally Posted by Blacksheep (Post 9891434)
Why just a Spitfire? Why a Mk.V and not a Mk.1A? Why not a Hurricane?

How about The People's Beverley Pilot?

How about The People's Air Electronics Operator?

or, The People's Aircraft Fitter (Airframe)?

It's all a load of Bollocks.

The People's Fairy ????

sycamore 14th Sep 2017 11:02

Not even a mention of `Ginger` Lacey..

langleybaston 14th Sep 2017 14:32

The sad thing is that these people are serious: my first thought was "is it April First?" and my second was that Private Eye had gone off the boil.

Anyway, I want to be The People's Met Man. Please PM me if you would consider voting for me and I will send you a 4000 word justification.

brakedwell 14th Sep 2017 15:02

They will be asking of nominees for I Was A Spitfire Pilot Get Me Out Of Here next.

OMG Itz Fulovstarz 14th Sep 2017 15:08

Having read the comments here, and in the historic section, and on other forums regarding this vote, I believe that we should all take the p*ss and vote for:-

Squadron Leader Spitty McSpitface

Worked with naming a boat, didn't it.....??

Pass it on.....

cliver029 14th Sep 2017 15:42


Originally Posted by Shack37 (Post 9890961)
Why donīt we start a campaign voting in favor of "Rockfist Rogan"


How we larfed when he won:E

...........and then there was the dashing pilot in the Victor, NO not that victor silly, the comic!:}

Herod 14th Sep 2017 15:57


Squadron Leader Spitty McSpitface
Glad to see you second my suggestion; I'll make you my deputy. Post 20

Downwind.Maddl-Land 14th Sep 2017 15:58

Whereas I concur with the main trust of the comments here, if you want an example of 'dumbing down' to the nth degree, have you been to the Imperial War Museum (London) recently???? I believe Ģ14m spent to turn it into a temple of sanctimonious PC claptrap...

kghjfg 14th Sep 2017 17:07

I believe HCAP(sic) have put their weight behind TCT for this accolade.

brakedwell 14th Sep 2017 17:24


Originally Posted by kghjfg (Post 9891792)
I believe HCAP(sic) have put their weight behind TCT for this accolade.

What for? Strictly Come Lying?

Pitchpoller 14th Sep 2017 17:57

TCT flew round the world solo in a Mk V, y'know. She's got a medal for it and everfink. The FAA (no, not that FAA, silly) even made her a Commander or a Rear Admiral or something.

She developed and patented a cardboard cutout of her own, but that was to protect her nose which somehow kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger every time she gave a talk about her round the world solo exploits in a Spitfire without an iPad.

OK, so it was a two-seat Mk V, but that's 'cos it was an 'outreach' project.

Just don't mention the Austrian bloke, though. I did once, but I think I got away with it.


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