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Heathrow Harry 11th Aug 2017 17:26

UK "gaps" Sentinel Opps
 
A 'gap' in UK Raytheon Sentinel R1 Airborne Stand-Off Radar (ASTOR) surveillance aircraft operations against the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq has emerged, after more than two years of continuous presence on the region.
The UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) announced in early August that a Sentinel from the Royal Air Force's (RAF) 5 (Army Co-operation - AC) Squadron had returned to its home base at Waddington in Lincolnshire. The MoD said the aircraft had been deployed for two months, and during that time was airborne for 235 hours.


A ministry spokesperson confirmed to Jane's on 9 August that the aircraft would not be replaced on duty at RAF Akrotiri on Cyprus, where the UK bases the majority of its aircraft participating in Operation 'Shader', as the UK contribution to the war against Islamic State is codenamed.

Jimlad1 11th Aug 2017 19:23

Or perhaps more accurately put "as operations in Iraq begin to change / draw down, the UK force package alters too"...

glad rag 12th Aug 2017 16:38

Yep.

Retrograde steps laid at the alter of F35..

Heathrow Harry 12th Aug 2017 17:49

Gradual erosion of capability without the need for any announcement - then in a year " well they've been sitting doing nuffin' so we can get rid of them"

SVK 12th Aug 2017 20:34

HH,

This is a Sentinel rather than Sentry thread.

;)

gr4techie 12th Aug 2017 20:58


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9859244)
The MoD said the aircraft had been deployed for two months, and during that time was airborne for 235 hours.

I wonder how the flying hours for Tornado, Typhoon and Voyager (AAR) compare ? Considering they have quite a few sorties per day and to Mosul and back is several hours.

Door Slider 12th Aug 2017 21:18


I wonder how the flying hours for Tornado, Typhoon and Voyager (AAR) compare ?
My guess for Voyager is approximately 600-650 hours.

Melchett01 12th Aug 2017 22:55


Originally Posted by Jimlad1 (Post 9859354)
Or perhaps more accurately put "as operations in Iraq begin to change / draw down, the UK force package alters too"...

I think we're a long way from ops drawing down, but a definite change of focus is in the offing as the Caliphate crumbles and we move back from fighting a physical entity that can be tracked from the air to fighting an idea and terrorist organization hiding among the population.

Pure Pursuit 13th Aug 2017 10:14


Originally Posted by SVK (Post 9860264)
HH,

This is a Sentinel rather than Sentry thread.

;)

I wouldn't read too much into any operational pause. Every squadron needs to take a breather now and again, as do it's a/c. ISTAR doesn't have the luxury of multiple squadrons for each type. Additionally, other nations take turns at holding a capability in theatre.

I'm quite confident about both 5 and 8 squadrons futures. I'd be more worried about the additional Typhoon squadrons never arriving. Christ knows how they'll man them.

DCThumb 13th Aug 2017 10:29

Sadly if by 5 Sqn you mean Sentinel, your confidence is misplaced as its withdrawal from service in 2020 (I think that is the right year) has already been announced.

The standown from Cyprus is everything to do with the chaps on the sqn being threaders after the best part of 10 years continuous ops - doesn't time fly!!!

pr00ne 13th Aug 2017 21:32

2021 is withdrawal date. Squadron complement reduced by one a/c in May.

Tinman74 16th Aug 2017 12:04


Originally Posted by glad rag (Post 9860111)
Yep.

Retrograde steps laid at the alter of F35..

Change your record mate, it is boring.


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