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sandiego89 7th Aug 2017 13:29


Originally Posted by TWT (Post 9854624)


I do find it interesting that some in Japan seem to jump on any chance to protest the US, especially in regards to Okinawa, and especially with the Osprey...but Japan have ordered the Osprey, and seemed just fine with opening the Fuji run MV-22 depot with much fanfare earlier this year. Yes I understand the politics.


https://www.cnic.navy.mil/regions/cn...-in-japan.html


Forgot who came up with the quote first, but something like "they would protest the Marines having a bake sale on Okinawa...."


All the best to the families involved in this case.

jolihokistix 7th Aug 2017 22:11

General grounding possible?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ash/ar-AApCE49

TWT 8th Aug 2017 00:25

US-Japan security: more sympathy and fewer complaints, please | Asia Times

B2N2 8th Aug 2017 01:03


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 9855196)

It's not unusual to do a 'safety-stand down ' and brief grounding after a fatal accident.
I would expect till initial review of deck camera footage and pilot interviews do not indicate a possible fleetwide problem.

SpazSinbad 8th Aug 2017 07:39

Marine Corps Identifies 3 Marines Killed in Saturday MV-22 Osprey Crash 07 Aug 2017 Megan Eckstein

https://news.usni.org/2017/08/07/mar...ash#more-27324

SpazSinbad 10th Aug 2017 08:07

31st MEU Osprey Ops Resume after a two day safety stand down:

https://news.usni.org/2017/08/09/fli...-5-fatal-crash

The Sultan 10th Aug 2017 20:23

http://https://www.flightglobal.com/...-crash-440174/

Appears not to be an aircraft issue.

SpazSinbad 10th Aug 2017 21:18


Originally Posted by The Sultan (Post 9858393)
http://https://www.flightglobal.com/...-crash-440174/

Appears not to be an aircraft issue.

For some reason [OOPS I see it now (too hasty earlier) there is a spurious extra 'http://' at beginning of your URL] the URL above - when activated - leaves off the back slash so it needs to be added to work: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-crash-440174/

Addition: Agree with 'Lonewolf 50' comment below - too early to tell cause and wait for preliminary accident report at least.

Lonewolf_50 10th Aug 2017 21:30

TheSultan: you appear to be leaping to a conclusion, since simply "hitting the ship" (unintentionally, obviously) doesn't rule out, nor does it confirm, the "why" be it aircraft, aircrew, something else - or various combinations of factors.
Doubtless the investigators are digging into that with some vigor.

West Coast 10th Aug 2017 22:53

Yes, too early to determine, curious the non mechanical direction is being suggested by an employee of the company that builds the aircraft in question.

Let the professionals sort it out.

The Sultan 11th Aug 2017 01:11

WC

What percentage of crashes at the flare end up being the actual aircraft? They have the video and the second pilot's testimony. With this information they returned the fleet to operations which they probably would not have done if they suspected an aircraft issue.

SASless 11th Aug 2017 03:11

Sultan is pretty good at leaping to conclusions....as facts sure don't get in his way very often. When they do....they seem to trip him up with great regularity.

Must be the harmonics of it all perhaps.

West Coast 11th Aug 2017 05:43


What percentage of crashes at the flare end up being the actual aircraft? They have the video and the second pilot's testimony. With this information they returned the fleet to operations which they probably would not have done if they suspected an aircraft issue.
Why do you feel the need to leap to a conclusion minus all the relevant facts required to do so?


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